Independent escorts, agencies and ‘protectors’

[Blue60]

You spelled pimps wrong. Unless these receptionists/operators do it for free. Which is OP's actually point.

My take on the thrust of the OP's post is that he has a concern that some escorts may be 'controlled' by others involved in the provision of services by those escorts rather than the escorts deciding freely themselves to pay others for the provision of support services, notwithstanding that those individuals may well fall foul of the legal interpretation of a pimp.

[AmyTantraMassage]

My take on the thrust of the OP's post is that he has a concern that some escorts may be 'controlled' by others involved in the provision of services by those escorts rather than the escorts deciding freely themselves to pay others for the provision of support services, notwithstanding that those individuals may well fall foul of the legal interpretation of a pimp.

If they have a receptionist, how are they freely operating? Initial contact and the vive you get during booking is what saves us from timewasters and violent clients. You think a commission based receptionist is gonna be that intuitive when they answer phones for 2 girls minimum? Just because ireland isn't as horrible as other countries doesn't mean it isn't. Its dangerous having a receptionist most rimes coz they'll book anyone and everyone and they won't remember or maybe cate about each girls favs. Case in point, like I said, the 1 in 50 clients that reviews, 30% are complaining about services promised but not provided. Girls have been abused and or killed for things like this. If it's an agency who actually vets clients by asking for ID, sure. But girls who get paid for every client who books.... nah. Because bottom line, they wanna male money. So they won't be as careful as a provider doing it herself. So if a girl is willing to put up with just about any client, imagine the abuse she's willing to take. Trauma based escorting is beyond unsafe let alone when a 'receptionist ' is making all the bookings.

[dave101]

"agency" "receptionist". do you hear yourselves?

[Boobsandbumlover]

While the OP makes some valid points quite a few Non English speaking ladies will use services of an operator / receptionist for translation and directions. Operator might provide translation / reception for more than one lady. The ladies often switch to using Wats App translation if they’ve met you once.

I do also state the following in my original post
“ Now it’s perfectly possible that the girl has someone who speaks better English and whom she trusts to arrange appointments for her and that would be fine. But I have my suspicions that this is not the case. And again I have a serious problem with contributing to criminals who are abusing vulnerable women.”

So on that I do agree with you that hose possibilities exist.

[Harry68]

You are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say they did for free . It’s a big leap you are making there equating doing the phone for a woman who has little or no English and being a pimp. I’m reluctant to engage with you because it’s your way or the highway. Which I’m doing now but I’m happy to yield the floor to you.

[AmyTantraMassage]

You are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say they did for free . It’s a big leap you are making there equating doing the phone for a woman who has little or no English and being a pimp. I’m reluctant to engage with you because it’s your way or the highway. Which I’m doing now but I’m happy to yield the floor to you.

It's the literal definition of a pimp. Especially as most receptionists are why there are so many 'what was agreed on the phone didn't happen' reviews. And most men don't review. They'll say anything to get thebclient in and get their 'commission' so they're as bad, if nit worse than the 'boyfriends' that listen to yall have sex with their 'girlfriends' in the sitting area/kitchen. Pimps.

[WeeJimmy]

Laws like these make things worst than better and that what the government's want, Irish government takes their orders from Europe and these laws are an straight up attack on the Escorts, they make out they're going after clients but main goal is to stamp out all prostitution as they call it, look how they were treated during covid, absolute disgrace to treat them that way while the fukers partied and doled out billions to other groups
on Monday an escort friend of mine in Manchester was slapped by a foreign guy who wanted sex but no payment, few hours later her windows put in, police called and no sign of them yet, dont wanna know, if it was some big shot theyd be there in a shot

[konus]

I have no moral problem with prostitution or the idea that I pay for sex. But lately I’ve become a bit suspicious again about the advertising on EI and the actual reality of meeting an escort. I usually peruse the ads (profile) of the escorts to make a choice to meet. I have a number of criteria that I personally always try to stick to. Appearance, age (30 or over for me, I want to be pretty sure the lady is mature enough to make her own decisions), offer of services, reviews and most importantly if the lady in question is independent. The last criterium is important to me because I find it important to know whether the money I pay the lady actually all goes to her, every penny of it.
I do not want a serious proportion of that money going to either, madams, agents, of human traffickers.

I think on the whole 90% of the ladies I visit are independent. ( they may have a boyfriend, but that’s their business) but lately I had at least three occasions where I arranged a meeting with a person on the phone with perfect English ( albeit with an accent. And since I’m not Irish myself I recognise a significant amount of accents. German, Russian, Spanish Italian American etc.) and then when you actually meet the lady on location they can hardly string a sentence together. This makes me suspicious that there are agents or worse active arranging appointments and of course they don’t do that for nothing. Now it’s perfectly possible that the girl has someone who speaks better English and whom she trusts to arrange appointments for her and that would be fine. But I have my suspicions that this is not the case. And again I have a serious problem with contributing to criminals who are abusing vulnerable women.

Young foreign ladies, basic english, different town in Ireland every couple days ... doesn't take much figuring out !!

[Blue60]

Young foreign ladies, basic english, different town in Ireland every couple days ... doesn't take much figuring out !!

Are you therefore saying that the escorts you describe above are basically all forced into the business and work in fear of their criminal masters ?

[konus]

Are you therefore saying that the escorts you describe above are basically all forced into the business and work in fear of their criminal masters ?

I'm not suggesting that for a moment. The point I am making is that foreign ladies with basic english couldn't organise travel and privately rented accommodation in up to a dozen rural Irish towns over 3/4 weeks without 'help'. My observation is that the travel/accommodation is organised for them, bit like the days when we used our Main St travel agents to book our two weeks in 'Terrormolinos'... (€99 specials, they were the days) ..

Think about it... Young foreign lady with no English and no car, can somehow get herself to Roscommon, Westmeath or Sligo, and find a privately owned apartment to rent for 3 days .. !!!! not possible even with airbnb.