Stubborn

[JennyIrish]

That saying “as stubborn as mule” needs to be changed to “as stubborn as Enoch Burke”, the man is still in jail!!!!

The Judge offered to release him for Easter (the most important Christian feast of the year, and he supposedly a Born again Christian??)

And he IGNORED the offer, kept talking over the Judge, until the Judge got fed up and ordered him to be returned to prison!!!

I do kind of feel sorry for him because I think his mother is a looney tune who raised a cult, not a family.

Maybe he’s just enjoying the break away from her??? Will it ever end lol or will he end up doing life by his own Orchestration???

[Eroticfunlover]

No winners there. Sad situation really and a bit surreal. However his refusal to acknowledge the chosen path of another human shows an ignorance from him and his family despite their beliefs that I cannot ignore. So no sympathy from me

[JennyIrish]

No winners there. Sad situation really and a bit surreal. However his refusal to acknowledge the chosen path of another human shows an ignorance from him and his family despite their beliefs that I cannot ignore. So no sympathy from me

My understanding is that the primary reason for his dismissal was because he was verbally aggressive towards the then female principal at a school function?

It’s true that there are no winners, it really is just such an insane situation we have Judge Nolan there giving suspended sentences to padeophiles and guys who have committed violent assaults, and Enoch Burke is there in prison for God knows how long at this stage and it all by his own choice?!?!?

Ok, so he won’t purge his contempt of Court but REAL criminals are getting suspended sentences coz prison spaces are limited, where is the common sence here, it’s costing the taxpayer daily to keep him in Mountjoy, he should be kicked out to feck, what’s he going to do, go and stand at the school for the rest of his life?

The Mum did a right job on her kids, they were all home schooled, kept away from society, raised with extremist views so now she has a bunch of highly intelligent but completely unemployable social outcasts. One bad apple to ruin the cart.

[Palatine]

My understanding is that the primary reason for his dismissal was because he was verbally aggressive towards the then female principal at a school function?

That seems so out of character. And he comes from such a nice family too.

Yep - he is still being paid his salary. How there's not an attachment order to it to cover the €700 a day fines from last year makes no sense to me.

https://www.thejournal.ie/enoch-burk...12664-Mar2024/

[JennyIrish]

I stand corrected, omg he IS still getting paid because he is appealing his dismissal! Madness and the cost of keeping him in Mountjoy for all this time, no wonder there’s no money to “fix the roads”

[konus]

My understanding is that the primary reason for his dismissal was because he was verbally aggressive towards the then female principal at a school function?

It’s true that there are no winners, it really is just such an insane situation we have Judge Nolan there giving suspended sentences to padeophiles and guys who have committed violent assaults, and Enoch Burke is there in prison for God knows how long at this stage and it all by his own choice?!?!?

Ok, so he won’t purge his contempt of Court but REAL criminals are getting suspended sentences coz prison spaces are limited, where is the common sence here, it’s costing the taxpayer daily to keep him in Mountjoy, he should be kicked out to feck, what’s he going to do, go and stand at the school for the rest of his life?

The Mum did a right job on her kids, they were all home schooled, kept away from society, raised with extremist views so now she has a bunch of highly intelligent but completely unemployable social outcasts. One bad apple to ruin the cart.

I think the whole thing kicked off when a student in the school didn't want to be recognised as male or female, and he refused to refer to the student as 'they' ... what a mad world we are becoming !!!

[StevB]

I think the whole thing kicked off when a student in the school didn't want to be recognised as male or female, and he refused to refer to the student as 'they' ... what a mad world we are becoming !!!

"Some people refuse to use the pronoun they when referring to individuals on the basis that it is primarily a plural pronoun instead of a singular pronoun." I think I would be of that persuasion, for grammar Nazi reasons, if nothing else.

English does not have a gender-neutral singular pronoun so "they" is used, but it is plural and sounds weird to a native English speaker.

[StevB]

Enoch Burke case needs to be sorted out by a competent social-worker, not the courts.
Problem is, "competent social-worker"? Where could we find one of them?

[JennyIrish]

"Some people refuse to use the pronoun they when referring to individuals on the basis that it is primarily a plural pronoun instead of a singular pronoun." I think I would be of that persuasion, for grammar Nazi reasons, if nothing else.

English does not have a gender-neutral singular pronoun so "they" is used, but it is plural and sounds weird to a native English speaker.

I absolutely agree with this! I’m trying to be more broad minded and not so old fashioned when it comes to all this non binary, multi gender stuff, but I wouldn’t agree to change my understanding of the English language to please someone else!

Imagine, as a teacher, How difficult that would be? You would really have to concentrate just to form a sentence:

“Where is Johnny? Has anyone seen them? Did they hand up their project . . . “

Agggghhh!!!

A friend who now teachers in the all girls school that I attended told me that staff cannot refer to the class as “girls listen up” or even “lads will ye pay attention” as was always done to be respectful to anyone who may be battling gender identity.

When I hear things like that I just take a deep breath and remind myself that I have to make an effort to be more understanding. . .

[AmyTantraMassage]

That saying “as stubborn as mule” needs to be changed to “as stubborn as Enoch Burke”, the man is still in jail!!!!

The Judge offered to release him for Easter (the most important Christian feast of the year, and he supposedly a Born again Christian??)

And he IGNORED the offer, kept talking over the Judge, until the Judge got fed up and ordered him to be returned to prison!!!

I do kind of feel sorry for him because I think his mother is a looney tune who raised a cult, not a family.

Maybe he’s just enjoying the break away from her??? Will it ever end lol or will he end up doing life by his own Orchestration???

He should be in a mental hospital not locked up. He's obviously high on the spectrum so I don't understand why they're not treating him as such. Until he's given irrefutable evident to contradict his beliefs, he's not gonna change.