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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbusdriver View Post
    I can only guess that someone who carries out a terrible attack like this has mental illness. It's impossible to understand otherwise. In relation to life imprisonment, it does actually mean life. Even if you get parole you can be returned to jail if you step out of line, and I believe you can never leave the country, you will never get a passport ever again.
    No it dosnt, not in this country. I don’t think there has ever been a full life sentence served in this country.

    From google:

    The average time a life-sentence prisoner spends in jail has increased in recent years and in 2020, it stood at 20 years.

    There are a total of 362 prisoners currently serving life sentences in Irish jails – 352 men and 10 women.

    Some 65 men have been behind bars for at least 20 years.

    Eleven have been in jail for over 35 years, with four in prison for over 40 years.

    The longest-serving prisoner is the rapist and murderer John Shaw.

    The 74-year-old from England has been locked up since 1976 when he was arrested for the abduction, rape, torture and murder of two women in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    No it dosnt, not in this country. I don’t think there has ever been a full life sentence served in this country.

    From google:

    The average time a life-sentence prisoner spends in jail has increased in recent years and in 2020, it stood at 20 years.

    There are a total of 362 prisoners currently serving life sentences in Irish jails – 352 men and 10 women.

    Some 65 men have been behind bars for at least 20 years.

    Eleven have been in jail for over 35 years, with four in prison for over 40 years.

    The longest-serving prisoner is the rapist and murderer John Shaw.

    The 74-year-old from England has been locked up since 1976 when he was arrested for the abduction, rape, torture and murder of two women in Ireland.
    If I remember correctly, it’s 25 for men and 18/20 for women b4 remission. They only the pleaded not guilty they don’t get the remission but may still get early release for good behaviour/compassion especially if terminally ill.

    I can’t follow it!! I don’t even wanna know who the judge is!! I’m not in the right headspace atm coz that’s all I’ll be talking about 24/7.

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    It's a horrible story. His testimony is blatant lies. i can't imagine what it must be like for that girl's family have to listen to that in court.

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    Stabbed 3 times, where was the pints of his blood? How did he make in to his friend’s house, after all that blood loss and covered in blood, Dublin the next day? The minute he said something so fictional ben telenovelas would never do such a story line, case should have been adjourned as that’s not even believable. How much is the rest of the trial gonna cost her loved ones emotionally and the tax payers? Not guilty pleas should NEVER be legal aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyTantraMassage View Post
    Stabbed 3 times, where was the pints of his blood? How did he make in to his friend’s house, after all that blood loss and covered in blood, Dublin the next day? The minute he said something so fictional ben telenovelas would never do such a story line, case should have been adjourned as that’s not even believable. How much is the rest of the trial gonna cost her loved ones emotionally and the tax payers? Not guilty pleas should NEVER be legal aid.
    Totally agree with that on free legal aid. The only way he could be not guilty is through some procedural flaws. I’d love to know how he convinced his legal advice as to his non guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrumhalf9 View Post
    Totally agree with that on free legal aid. The only way he could be not guilty is through some procedural flaws. I’d love to know how he convinced his legal advice as to his non guilt.
    I doubt they’re convinced, they’re just doing their job. People keep saying how can they defend him but the right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty is what makes us a civilised democratic society.

    I see on twitter the internet experts are out saying the gaurds are framing Puska coz apart from the weight of evidence against him, the gaurds are not interested in bringing the perpetrator of one of the countries most horrific, senseless crimes to Justice?? Right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    People keep saying how can they defend him but the right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty is what makes us a civilised democratic society.

    Yep, and at least we can lock him up now knowing he's had that fair trial.

    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    I see on twitter the internet experts are out saying the gaurds are framing Puska coz apart from the weight of evidence against him, the gaurds are not interested in bringing the perpetrator of one of the countries most horrific, senseless crimes to Justice?? Right.
    Irish twitter is just the worst. It's like the Joe Duffy show for the 21st century. Lot of people need to get a life and half a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyTantraMassage View Post
    If I remember correctly, it’s 25 for men and 18/20 for women b4 remission. They only the pleaded not guilty they don’t get the remission but may still get early release for good behaviour/compassion especially if terminally ill.

    I can’t follow it!! I don’t even wanna know who the judge is!! I’m not in the right headspace atm coz that’s all I’ll be talking about 24/7.
    I would say in this country it’s all going to be changed after this case, and rightly so, because the judge today made comments to say he should be able to give a minimum sentence to be served but that authority does not exist in this country so, insanely, Puska Will be eligible for parole after 12 years!!!!!! The usual “life” Sentence here is a mere 20 years, and unlike the UK there is no whole life sentence, the judge did comment today that if he could he would pass a whole life sentence in this case.

    Another thing that absolutely boils My blood is prison officers have a duty of care to Poska, they have to protect him from being harmed from other prisoners, so I’m going to guess that he would be put with, do you remember that rotten thing Graham Dwyer, he has a piano in a cell and everything think he’s in the Midlands in Portlaoise, he had a thing for killing women with knives, so more than likely this thing will be put with his own kind, you didn’t up banging your head off a wall in frustration.

    The only thing I can hope and pray, and I am A person of faith, it’s wrong to ever pray for harm to someone, but while I’m going to pray for is that some of the prison guards “slip up” and “accidentally” let Puska Into the general population area of the prison even for just five minutes.

    I really hope this will open the debate and why are we letting these type of people into the country will never work a day in their lives for a full 10 years. Us gobshite Irish citizens here breaking our backs trying to pay a mortgage for those who can even get a mortgage, trying to pay the heating, trying to put kids through college and now we have to worry will our kids meet a fate like this at 4pm some evening?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    I would say in this country it’s all going to be changed after this case, and rightly so, because the judge today made comments to say he should be able to give a minimum sentence to be served but that authority does not exist in this country so, insanely, Puska Will be eligible for parole after 12 years!!!!!! The usual “life” Sentence here is a mere 20 years, and unlike the UK there is no whole life sentence, the judge did comment today that if he could he would pass a whole life sentence in this case.

    Another thing that absolutely boils My blood is prison officers have a duty of care to Poska, they have to protect him from being harmed from other prisoners, so I’m going to guess that he would be put with, do you remember that rotten thing Graham Dwyer, he has a piano in a cell and everything think he’s in the Midlands in Portlaoise, he had a thing for killing women with knives, so more than likely this thing will be put with his own kind, you didn’t up banging your head off a wall in frustration.

    The only thing I can hope and pray, and I am A person of faith, it’s wrong to ever pray for harm to someone, but while I’m going to pray for is that some of the prison guards “slip up” and “accidentally” let Puska Into the general population area of the prison even for just five minutes.

    I really hope this will open the debate and why are we letting these type of people into the country will never work a day in their lives for a full 10 years. Us gobshite Irish citizens here breaking our backs trying to pay a mortgage for those who can even get a mortgage, trying to pay the heating, trying to put kids through college and now we have to worry will our kids meet a fate like this at 4pm some evening?!
    [sarcastic voice (in case it wasn't blatantly obvious)] No Jenny... you can't say that. That's racist.....

    Interesting short here from a few years ago. Now it's specifically about Islam, but I think the underlying principle can be applied much further afield to different aspects of different cultures and their effect on our own by not vetting people that immigrate to Ireland and so on, chief among them violence towards women.



    And just for the record regarding that pathetic piece of shit Puska... I would GLADLY spend the rest of my days in prison by giving him his just desserts. Justice? There is no justice. He could well be out within a decade! Now I'm not normally an advocate for torture... but in his case I'll gladly make an exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    I would say in this country it’s all going to be changed after this case, and rightly so, because the judge today made comments to say he should be able to give a minimum sentence to be served but that authority does not exist in this country so, insanely, Puska Will be eligible for parole after 12 years!!!!!! The usual “life” Sentence here is a mere 20 years, and unlike the UK there is no whole life sentence, the judge did comment today that if he could he would pass a whole life sentence in this case.

    Another thing that absolutely boils My blood is prison officers have a duty of care to Poska, they have to protect him from being harmed from other prisoners, so I’m going to guess that he would be put with, do you remember that rotten thing Graham Dwyer, he has a piano in a cell and everything think he’s in the Midlands in Portlaoise, he had a thing for killing women with knives, so more than likely this thing will be put with his own kind, you didn’t up banging your head off a wall in frustration.

    The only thing I can hope and pray, and I am A person of faith, it’s wrong to ever pray for harm to someone, but while I’m going to pray for is that some of the prison guards “slip up” and “accidentally” let Puska Into the general population area of the prison even for just five minutes.

    I really hope this will open the debate and why are we letting these type of people into the country will never work a day in their lives for a full 10 years. Us gobshite Irish citizens here breaking our backs trying to pay a mortgage for those who can even get a mortgage, trying to pay the heating, trying to put kids through college and now we have to worry will our kids meet a fate like this at 4pm some evening?!
    Everything you say is 100% correct.
    Unfortunately the problem here is too many fucking do gooders in the country.
    Things need to change big time.
    If you say anything they just call you a racist.

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