drugs something i find intreasting

[saoirsemac]

was reading about the peru two, and reading the comments about give them life all the hurt and pain they cause by bringing drugs

to me those statements are on par with someone going u smoke weed, i dont agree as my mate died of herion, ban all drugs


now there illegal, true but similar drugs are perfectly legal, ie tobacco alchol and lets not forget irelands biggest drug addicts tend to favour our legal alteratives such as valiums etc

the thing about drug abusers is, they will always find a new a drug to abuse its the personailty of a person not the drug as such

comments that this girls will bring hurt and misery is kinda funny, firstly one look at them, hardly the masterminds here,

secondly, ive met a few dealers in my time, never once have i been made buy, ive been offered but the final choice of what i put into my body was my choice...... so how does the dealer hurt and cause misery when you choose it? and its not like the give u a list, you ask for the drug u want.... so if ur buying herion ur asking for it
kinda like saying my next client is a rapist because he paying to have sex with me

also to a drug addict again if there no herion, they will find an alterative thats the nature of the beast....

there a bar 200m away for me, im not inclinced to go over there for a drink, but there some who sit here counting the seconds till it opens, do we scream and preech the drink industry are murders etc? no we put the blame nd rightly on the addict who abuses it

if we made drugs legal wud we really have more abusers? or abusers with more varied usuages

if your going to be an addict thats down to you, not the barman or the dealer really!


just something i always found laughable esp the drugs are bad my friend died of herion. no your mate died because he was an idiot who pumped shit in his veins of his own accord, the dealer sold it he bought it

we have such a blame culture, if we cannot agree we need to find something to blame, the only thing to blame is human nature

[Johnco]

was reading about the peru two, and reading the comments about give them life all the hurt and pain they cause by bringing drugs

to me those statements are on par with someone going u smoke weed, i dont agree as my mate died of herion, ban all drugs


now there illegal, true but similar drugs are perfectly legal, ie tobacco alchol and lets not forget irelands biggest drug addicts tend to favour our legal alteratives such as valiums etc

the thing about drug abusers is, they will always find a new a drug to abuse its the personailty of a person not the drug as such

comments that this girls will bring hurt and misery is kinda funny, firstly one look at them, hardly the masterminds here,

secondly, ive met a few dealers in my time, never once have i been made buy, ive been offered but the final choice of what i put into my body was my choice...... so how does the dealer hurt and cause misery when you choose it? and its not like the give u a list, you ask for the drug u want.... so if ur buying herion ur asking for it
kinda like saying my next client is a rapist because he paying to have sex with me

also to a drug addict again if there no herion, they will find an alterative thats the nature of the beast....

there a bar 200m away for me, im not inclinced to go over there for a drink, but there some who sit here counting the seconds till it opens, do we scream and preech the drink industry are murders etc? no we put the blame nd rightly on the addict who abuses it

if we made drugs legal wud we really have more abusers? or abusers with more varied usuages

if your going to be an addict thats down to you, not the barman or the dealer really!


just something i always found laughable esp the drugs are bad my friend died of herion. no your mate died because he was an idiot who pumped shit in his veins of his own accord, the dealer sold it he bought it

we have such a blame culture, if we cannot agree we need to find something to blame, the only thing to blame is human nature

They also sell drugs to easily led and impressionable young kids who haven't yet got the capacity to think about the consequences of their actions and are ill informed and unable to make the correct decision.These kids then grow up to become the addicts you speak about and the addiction takes over meaning they will never,in most cases, be able to make the right choice.

[saoirsemac]

They also sell drugs to easily led and impressionable young kids who haven't yet got the capacity to think about the consequences of their actions and are ill informed and unable to make the correct decision.These kids then grow up to become the addicts you speak about and the addiction takes over meaning they will never,in most cases, be able to make the right choice.

then its there bloody parents for providing them with the means to go out and purchase drugs, and not providing the supervision to make sure they dont,

im sorry that like saying ban porn because kids look at it, no because parents dont mind there own kids and educate them

kids drink and smoke, why are we not banning them too? and maybe ive been lucky anyone i know who sells wudnt to kids
you do know not all drug dealers are scum and immoral bastards?

i started my first drug at 13, tobacco, i went and bought it easily myself form a legal vendor, not thats 12 years ago and she an old lady thinking i was buying smokes for my dad,
now i puked after one, and didnt smoke till i was 15 again....


if kids are buying and taking drugs, you need to look at you giving them the money and means to do it

again back to my blame culture point, blame the dealers, nope blame the parents for allowing them have the means

[Johnco]

then its there bloody parents for providing them with the means to go out and purchase drugs, and not providing the supervision to make sure they dont,

im sorry that like saying ban porn because kids look at it, no because parents dont mind there own kids and educate them

kids drink and smoke, why are we not banning them too? and maybe ive been lucky anyone i know who sells wudnt to kids
you do know not all drug dealers are scum and immoral bastards?

i started my first drug at 13, tobacco, i went and bought it easily myself form a legal vendor, not thats 12 years ago and she an old lady thinking i was buying smokes for my dad,
now i puked after one, and didnt smoke till i was 15 again....


if kids are buying and taking drugs, you need to look at you giving them the money and means to do it

again back to my blame culture point, blame the dealers, nope blame the parents for allowing them have the means

I would be one who would,at times,say blame the parents,but it's not always the parents fault.Parents supplying the means doesn't and should never absolve dealers from selling drugs to kids.It's just wrong whatever way you look at it.It is illegal to sell drink or smokes to underage kids and in the vast majority of cases,this law is abided by.People selling drugs in the vast majority of cases don't care about the users age.
In many cases a childs first experience of drugs is one where they haven't had to pay for it.In some cases dealers have given the drugs free of charge in order to get the kids hooked.I know a number of people who got their first taste of drugs this way,some have died,for some it's only a matter of time,others have been lucky and sorted themselves out but in every case it has ruined a large portion of their lives and taken away their childhood.

As adults we make decisions,right or wrong,but it's our decision and we can't complain about the eventual outcome.But for kids
who are immature and unable to imagine the devastating outcome of drug abuse,they need us,as adults, to make those decisions for them,because they rarely make the right one,they make what seems to be the exciting fun one.

I have no problem,as such, with legalising drugs for use by adults.We make our choices and we live and die by those choices.It's one thing selling recreational drugs to people who have waited till they reached adulthood before trying drugs,most of these don't become addicts,but it is a completely different scenario to sell to kids and get them hooked in order to create customers.These kids don't stand a chance.

[warmcome]

I would be one who would,at times,say blame the parents,but it's not always the parents fault.Parents supplying the means doesn't and should never absolve dealers from selling drugs to kids.It's just wrong whatever way you look at it.It is illegal to sell drink or smokes to underage kids and in the vast majority of cases,this law is abided by.People selling drugs in the vast majority of cases don't care about the users age.
In many cases a childs first experience of drugs is one where they haven't had to pay for it.In some cases dealers have given the drugs free of charge in order to get the kids hooked.I know a number of people who got their first taste of drugs this way,some have died,for some it's only a matter of time,others have been lucky and sorted themselves out but in every case it has ruined a large portion of their lives and taken away their childhood.

As adults we make decisions,right or wrong,but it's our decision and we can't complain about the eventual outcome.But for kids
who are immature and unable to imagine the devastating outcome of drug abuse,they need us,as adults, to make those decisions for them,because they rarely make the right one,they make what seems to be the exciting fun one.

I have no problem,as such, with legalising drugs for use by adults.We make our choices and we live and die by those choices.It's one thing selling recreational drugs to people who have waited till they reached adulthood before trying drugs,most of these don't become addicts,but it is a completely different scenario to sell to kids and get them hooked in order to create customers.These kids don't stand a chance.

real education about drugs, self esteem, sports is the chance. you're right the illegal
drugs trade cannot protect children. the headshops i visited used refuse people who had no id.

[saoirsemac]

all i can say where is these free dealers give out samples

if i ask some lads who sell weed for a joint before buy id be told eh no

where btw do you get your stastics the vast amount of drug dealers sell to kids, have you experience of dealers?
tis kinda like ruhuma saying we are all trafficked


its like the sunday world there drugs on every corner of dublin inner city, em fucking where? ive looked like

you gotta look for drugs, and look hard

at 15 i was walking in offies buying drink with my sisters id, that not a faultless system really,

and btw the first drug i tryed was brandy on my gums as a teething toddler! but in later years the one i took wanting to try was a cigerette or a sup of my fathers pint or wine with my family, and im not ragging alco today either, mind i still like brandy

and again its the parents education, kids will always wanna try things, and forbidden fruit is always sweeter,

and no one talks about legalising drugs for kids, have it the same as drink and tobocco,


also look foward to actual proof of dealers given free hits to kids, or did you read that in sunday world,

if you take that as gospel why are you here? they say we are trafficked aswell, and im talking ireland not other countries


plus using your arguement that unregulated vendors of naroctics sell to children the simple answering to regulate it and sell at over 18 with id at a premises

wouldnt that cut down all these free hits? i doubt dunnes wud, you know they loose over 18grand a year form people stealing grapes i was surprised too

[warmcome]

Galway:

heroin is easy and cheap to get if one were foolish enough.
Cannabis buds are hard to get and expensive.

failed drugs policy

[Johnco]

all i can say where is these free dealers give out samples

if i ask some lads who sell weed for a joint before buy id be told eh no

where btw do you get your stastics the vast amount of drug dealers sell to kids, have you experience of dealers?
tis kinda like ruhuma saying we are all trafficked


its like the sunday world there drugs on every corner of dublin inner city, em fucking where? ive looked like

you gotta look for drugs, and look hard

at 15 i was walking in offies buying drink with my sisters id, that not a faultless system really,

and btw the first drug i tryed was brandy on my gums as a teething toddler! but in later years the one i took wanting to try was a cigerette or a sup of my fathers pint or wine with my family, and im not ragging alco today either, mind i still like brandy


and again its the parents education, kids will always wanna try things, and forbidden fruit is always sweeter,

and no one talks about legalising drugs for kids, have it the same as drink and tobocco,


also look foward to actual proof of dealers given free hits to kids, or did you read that in sunday world,


if you take that as gospel why are you here? they say we are trafficked aswell, and im talking ireland not other countries

I've grown up in the middle of it Saoirse and have seen it first hand.I've had a family member and a few friends given drugs this way when they where barely teenagers by well known dealers and unless they have grown a conscience,i have no doubt they are still doing it today,or at least have their"employees" doing it.

[Jaygoodtimes]

Dont like junkies, cunts asking for bus change in Limerick the whole time FUCK OFF

[Marcus69]

then its there bloody parents for providing them with the means to go out and purchase drugs, and not providing the supervision to make sure they dont,
if kids are buying and taking drugs, you need to look at you giving them the money and means to do it
again back to my blame culture point, blame the dealers, nope blame the parents for allowing them have the means

Sorry, but that argument is too simplistic.

Many parents love and care for their children and try their best to prepare them for the world ahead.
This of course includes financial responsibility.
it's not about throwing money at 'the young person', but trying to educate them to this world of ours.
Unfortunately, the child can be taken advantage off - not the Childs fault nor the parents - it unfortunately happens no matter how much care the parent takes.

What in my opinion separates the good and bad parents is how they deal with this issue.
What should be paramount, is how the 'young person' is supported during this time.

Is it the fault of the child or parent?
NO!

The fault should rely on the dealer that seeks out the week!