Let's Stop Pretending that Irish is Alive and Well...

[Noeljames]

Of course it's alive, but maybe your not Irish enough.

[Clueless]

It is dead for the most of us!!

[alcatel]

It is dead for the most of us!!

Chuir reiteoir i cluiche peil gaelach cosc ar beirt imreoiri caint as Gaeilge le deanai. Mar sin fuairimid amach go bhfuil destin ag Paul Williams ar an teanga.. Bhi se ag tabhairt amach go leadranach ar an raidio, an maidin seo caite. Mar sin bhi George Hook ag tabhairt tacaiocht, ag cosaint na Gaeilge nios deanai. Leim se ar an 'band wagon', de reir dealramh, gan dabht.,

[FatBastard]

Chuir reiteoir i cluiche peil gaelach cosc ar beirt imreoiri caint as Gaeilge le deanai. Mar sin fuairimid amach go bhfuil destin ag Paul Williams ar an teanga.. Bhi se ag tabhairt amach go leadranach ar an raidio, an maidin seo caite. Mar sin bhi George Hook ag tabhairt tacaiocht, ag cosaint na Gaeilge nios deanai. Leim se ar an 'band wagon', de reir dealramh, gan dabht.,

I always get a kick out of TG4 flat out babbling away then the odd full English word with full English pronunciation in the middle.

I'm afraid my knowledge of the lingo ended when Bosco on Network 2 stopped.

[bollocks]

Chuir reiteoir i cluiche peil gaelach cosc ar beirt imreoiri caint as Gaeilge le deanai. Mar sin fuairimid amach go bhfuil destin ag Paul Williams ar an teanga.. Bhi se ag tabhairt amach go leadranach ar an raidio, an maidin seo caite. Mar sin bhi George Hook ag tabhairt tacaiocht, ag cosaint na Gaeilge nios deanai. Leim se ar an 'band wagon', de reir dealramh, gan dabht.,

we need a translation. couldnt lern the stuf.

[bedders1]

in my daughters school, they have a lesson in it everyday, not maths or science but oirish!????

[alcatel]

I always get a kick out of TG4 flat out babbling away then the odd full English word with full English pronunciation in the middle.

I'm afraid my knowledge of the lingo ended when Bosco on Network 2 stopped.

Native speakers in the Gaeltacht do this all the time ie insert English words occasionally. A common thing where languages meet esp if one is more dominant. And esp if the word describes something new for a particular language.
Irish has neologisms for new inventions /technology but native speakers are as likely to use an English word.
Rothar from roth(wheel) - bicycle.
Eitlean, ag eitilt-flying gives aeroplane.
Gluais to move gives gluaistean-car.

Native speakers are more likely to use the English words above rather than the coined Irish words.
Languages borrow from each other.
French has le weekend.
Le parking.
Le camping.

In English, to run amok comes from Malay.
To go berserk comes from old Norse.
Interestingly roth is distantly related to rotate in English. Both descend from a common Indo - European ancestral word.

[FatBastard]

Native speakers in the Gaeltacht do this all the time ie insert English words occasionally. A common thing where languages meet esp if one is more dominant. And esp if the word describes something new for a particular language.
Irish has neologisms for new inventions /technology but native speakers are as likely to use an English word.
Rothar from roth(wheel) - bicycle.
Eitlean, ag eitilt-flying gives aeroplane.
Gluais to move gives gluaistean-car.

Native speakers are more likely to use the English words above rather than the coined Irish words.
Languages borrow from each other.
French has le weekend.
Le parking.
Le camping.

In English, to run amok comes from Malay.
To go berserk comes from old Norse.
Interestingly roth is distantly related to rotate in English. Both descend from a common Indo - European ancestral word.

Oh I know, same in most languages. Hell even 'our' English is getting tainted by Americanisms.

I just find it funny that pronunciation and all is perfect English. All I hear on RnaG is:

dgbugekjbsgd FORD CORTINA djsgrdjb jkbsdgr fbhr iPhone trbtrvstb vgvkhgv TURN LEFT AT THE ROUNDABOUT jsegrbj hbsvegrhhb hjbwer

When you've no idea of what the context is they're talking about, it can be comical putting together the English tidbits.

Not that I'm trying to disparage the language or anything, I can't eve look a German in the eye without laughing when he says "Give me mien handy"

[alcatel]

Oh I know, same in most languages. Hell even 'our' English is getting tainted by Americanisms.

I just find it funny that pronunciation and all is perfect English. All I hear on RnaG is:



When you've no idea of what the context is they're talking about, it can be comical putting together the English tidbits.

Not that I'm trying to disparage the language or anything, I can't eve look a German in the eye without laughing when he says "Give me mien handy"

English could be described as a bastardised, mongrel language-a hotchpotch, mixum and gathrum of the languages of the world. A trade language or a pidgin due to the admixtures of Danes and Norman - French to the existing Anglo-Saxons, 800 to a 1,000 years ago.
But this is the beauty, the strength and glory of English.
The amalgamation of different peoples that gave rise to modern English meant that much grammer was ditched.
It is perfectly obvious to us that a chair does not need to be masculine or feminine-many languages(including Irish), never reached this conclusion)
Back in 1984 I was not in a dystopian, Orewellian world.
I was in school.
A girl in the class was talking about being" into '' something.
I was aware of the term and what it meant but I sneered at it, a little.
Not so many years later, I myself, was into many things, including using the word '' into''.
That is the beauty of a living language-it evolves and adapts to circumstance, as times change-even going so far as to include the adoption of 'Americanisms' '. .

[FatBastard]

English could be described as a bastardised, mongrel language-a hotchpotch, mixum and gathrum of the languages of the world. A trade language or a pidgin due to the admixtures of Danes and Norman - French to the existing Anglo-Saxons, 800 to a 1,000 years ago.
But this is the beauty, the strength and glory of English.
The amalgamation of different peoples that gave rise to modern English meant that much grammer was ditched.
It is perfectly obvious to us that a chair does not need to be masculine or feminine-many languages(including Irish), never reached this conclusion)
Back in 1984 I was not in a dystopian, Orewellian world.
I was in school.
A girl in the class was talking about being" into '' something.
I was aware of the term and what it meant but I sneered at it, a little.
Not so many years later, I myself, was into many things, including using the word '' into''.
That is the beauty of a living language-it evolves and adapts to circumstance, as times change-even going so far as to include the adoption of 'Americanisms' '. .

My realisation of it was when I became friends with some eastern euros, some of which were only starting out learning English, and they could not get their heads round the fact that in English there can be 15 different ways to say the same thing and words taking roots from all all over the place. 'Television' as a classic example with half Greek and half Latin origin, just beautiful.