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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyne View Post
    Since start the war between Izrael and Palestine not much news about Russia and Ukraine ;after this war will be another war because its distraction from something big what they do in the world.Its all what they want to make war and people hate each other then people dont unit against of the elite ;but this cost a lot of life and we dont know what is the next .Its all planned.
    Israel have already started Lebanon. Close to where Irish peacekeepers are stationed.

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    Mahmoud Darwish


    Write it down! I’m an Arab
    My card number is 50000
    My children number eight
    And after this summer, a ninth on his way.
    Does this make you rage?
    I am an Arab.
    With my quarry comrades I labor hard
    My children number eight
    I tug their bread, their clothes
    And their notebooks
    From within the rock
    I don’t beg at your door
    I don’t cower on your threshold
    So does this make you rage?
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    I am a name with no honorific.
    Patient in a land
    Where everything lives in bursting rage
    My roots were planted before time was born
    Before history began
    Before the cypress and the olive trees
    Before grass sprouted
    My father is from the plough clan
    Not from the noble class
    My grandfather was a peasant farmer
    Had no pedigree
    Taught me the pride of the sun
    Before teaching me to read
    A shack to guard groves is my home,
    Made of branches and reeds
    Are you pleased with my status?
    I am a name with no honorific.
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    Hair color: charcoal
    Eye color: brown
    Attributes:
    A cord around the quffiyeh on my head
    My hand as hard as rock
    That scratches if you touch it
    My address:
    I am from a forgotten abandoned village
    Its streets nameless
    All its men in the fields and quarries
    Does this make you rage?
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    You have stolen my ancestors’ groves
    And the land we cultivated
    I and all my children
    Leaving nothing for us and all my grandchildren
    Except these rocks
    Will your government take them
    Like people say?
    Therefore,
    Write down on the top of the first page:
    I do not hate people
    And I do not steal from anyone
    But if I starve
    I will eat my oppressor’s flesh
    Beware, beware of my starving
    And my rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnFulfilledScott View Post
    ID Card

    Mahmoud Darwish


    Write it down! I’m an Arab
    My card number is 50000
    My children number eight
    And after this summer, a ninth on his way.
    Does this make you rage?
    I am an Arab.
    With my quarry comrades I labor hard
    My children number eight
    I tug their bread, their clothes
    And their notebooks
    From within the rock
    I don’t beg at your door
    I don’t cower on your threshold
    So does this make you rage?
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    I am a name with no honorific.
    Patient in a land
    Where everything lives in bursting rage
    My roots were planted before time was born
    Before history began
    Before the cypress and the olive trees
    Before grass sprouted
    My father is from the plough clan
    Not from the noble class
    My grandfather was a peasant farmer
    Had no pedigree
    Taught me the pride of the sun
    Before teaching me to read
    A shack to guard groves is my home,
    Made of branches and reeds
    Are you pleased with my status?
    I am a name with no honorific.
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    Hair color: charcoal
    Eye color: brown
    Attributes:
    A cord around the quffiyeh on my head
    My hand as hard as rock
    That scratches if you touch it
    My address:
    I am from a forgotten abandoned village
    Its streets nameless
    All its men in the fields and quarries
    Does this make you rage?
    Write it down!
    I am an Arab.
    You have stolen my ancestors’ groves
    And the land we cultivated
    I and all my children
    Leaving nothing for us and all my grandchildren
    Except these rocks
    Will your government take them
    Like people say?
    Therefore,
    Write down on the top of the first page:
    I do not hate people
    And I do not steal from anyone
    But if I starve
    I will eat my oppressor’s flesh
    Beware, beware of my starving
    And my rage.

    Powerful .


    Valid !!
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    “You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist” — said Indira Gandhi


    ^^ be a good summation of This region over the last many decades / hundred years .

    How , that under Ottoman rule all Jews , Arabs , Christians could live peacefully next to each !?

    : because at the time None were trying to Exclude others from a land .



    From River to the Sea — as it was before : in peace , in unity even if prays to a different ‘god’ .

    But now clenched fists all around .
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    :

    “You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist” — said Indira Gandhi


    ^^ be a good summation of This region over the last many decades / hundred years .

    How , that under Ottoman rule all Jews , Arabs , Christians could live peacefully next to each !?

    : because at the time None were trying to Exclude others from a land .



    From River to the Sea — as it was before : in peace , in unity even if prays to a different ‘god’ .

    But now clenched fists all around .
    I think there must be reasonable voices in Israel and it is important that these are not drowned so that it has a chance to shape to general discussion otherwise in a siege mentality, opinions and beliefs only harden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Launcelot View Post
    I think there must be reasonable voices in Israel and it is important that these are not drowned so that it has a chance to shape to general discussion otherwise in a siege mentality, opinions and beliefs only harden.
    The problem is that all reasonable voices/dissent is being actively neutered and has been for the longest time.
    Israel is among the most fascistic rightwing theocratic ethnonationalist anomalies on the planet.

    The Isreali Knesset passed legislation some time back that made it illegal for the President to pardon anyone who killed a Prime Minister.
    Why? Because they knew there was a good chance Netanyahu would pardon Yigal Amir, the extremist that assassinated Yitzhak Rabin.
    Why? Because Amir was doing exactly what Netanyahu wanted.

    Israel is fucked.

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    I’m not interested in behind the scenes PM dissertations on the subject .

    If you wish to still address the topic and perhaps respond to your blatant

    misinformation / lack of experience : please do so here on the thread :


    Quote Originally Posted by Palatine
    I've been to Jerusalem many times. I'm describing what I see. Yes Jerusalem is now completely part of Israel since the failed attempt to destroy the country in 67. But

    the holy sites for Muslims are still absolutely controlled by Muslims.

    Only difference is Jews are now allowed pray on the tiny section of the Temple Mount that they're allowed to access.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Here’s how Muslims control Every holy site in Jerusalem .

    This is Al Aqsa Mosque during Ramadan - the holiest Muslim holiday .

    https://youtube.com/shorts/FiCMxohxI...bASNNvvZjyQUS3
    DO Click on my Link : it’s a 1 minute video of Muslim people praying in Al Aqsa Mosque ,

    and how the Muslims Supposedly control all their holy sites .

    Palatine , in fact you “Cannot think of a single holy site that is controlled by Israel” .

    Please comment on that short bit of footage , won’t you ?
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    Aug 11 , 2023

    BEFORE the terror attack .

    : occupied West Bank and the way things go day-to-day >>

    Short Video : https://youtube.com/shorts/JOf_woeTH...n-rjbBcT-iqfyp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launcelot View Post
    I think there must be reasonable voices in Israel and it is important that these are not drowned so that it has a chance to shape to general discussion otherwise in a siege mentality, opinions and beliefs only harden.
    There are reasonable voices in Israel, but not enough - look who they elect!
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    Other opinions are allowed
    Age doesn't equal maturity - just look around !
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