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We all gonna die some day from something or other. Fix the health service. Just because health service is crap doesn't mean the quality of our social lives and interactions should be reduced or inhibited. Cave men would not have left the cave if they worried over contracting whatever ailmentOriginally Posted by EdwardElizabethHitler
Over 9,000 deaths every year Ireland from cancer and you want to talk about the strain on the health service from alcohol? Haha you're funny.
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That's actually a treasonous and cowardly way to live you life, to shun alcohol. Socialising with a drink enhances people's lives to such a huge degree, makes the world we live in somewhat tolerable. 3 deaths a day over alcohol. What a ridiculous thing to write.
I'll bite. How should we fix the health service?
Not that I agree with Hitler, just your rebuttal, I'd like to explore your thought process.
Are you suggesting the vat on alcohol sales directly fund the extra burden on the health service?
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I don't care how they fix the health service, if it takes another 100 years to bring it up to scratch. No health service is perfect including the lauded NHS. What I detest is the excuse of the poor health service to inhibit healthy peoples social lives. Hitler says 3 people a day died from alcohol in 2017. What age were these people? Were they in their 30s/40s/50s?? I doubt it. Alcohol does not cut people down in the prime of their lives so stop using it as some kind of scapegoat
So you see, nobody said the health service was broken, except you. And when asked what it was lacking or how to fix it, you say you don't know or care.
I'm nudging you towards thinking that maybe it isn't that we need this almighty health service to miraculously save us no matter how we choose to kill ourselves, but rather see that maybe a health service should be suited to the needs of the population it serves. Add that an enlightened population might consider its actions with the perspective of the impact of those actions on the services that were in place to support them.
Just a thought. Now back to bashing Hitler.
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Are you for real? They're on about it day and night, how we should reintroduce masks again to spare the collapsing health service, nevermind alcohol related issues. I think you are still stuck in the caves. I give up
We were talking about alcohol, now you're talking about masks. Your argument was we should be able to do what we want and just fix the health service so that we can drink ourselves to death.
I'm instead trying to sow the seed that maybe the issue isn't the health service in your argument.
Maybe to comically illustrate the point - we should fix the health service to provide a crack team of base jump response team members. Because we should all be entitled to base jump as much as we want, despite the danger, and the health service, even though it is clearly fucked, should just be fixed so that we can live freely and base jump every day.
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I don't know what you are on about, base jumping as an example? Poor.
I said the health service is shite - whether you like that or not is irrelevant.
Socialising with alcohol and the subsequent abuse of alcohol is a fact of life. To try reversing this like the Ray D'Arcy brigade is a non starter
I never said our health service was amazing. But I live in the real world. Nobody has fixed it in decades of trying and hundreds of billions thrown at it, and yet, by and large, it serves our needs.
I started our conversation asking you how you would fix it and all you can say is you don't know or care you just want it done so you can drink till 6 in the morning and not think about the consequences of doing that, nor the impact of that on our health services or the taxes I'd have to pay for your treatment.
I'd genuinely be interested in hearing something constructive, but it seems you just want to complain about a shite health service, that you think wouldn't be impacted by allowing people to drink all night long.
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