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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    You are assuming that's true.

    But even if it is, you wouldn't haphazardly organise an invasion if you were Putin.
    So why do you think he's stupid?
    but he did

    is he stupid? maybe in terms of military tactical nous
    maybe he's overly reactionary
    maybe the military command structure is a bit incompetent
    i know the russian forces are underfunded for their size

    whatever the reason,meticulously planned this was not
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    The only thing is, he just might do it.
    Doubt it because he would have done it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    You are assuming that's true.

    But even if it is, you wouldn't haphazardly organise an invasion if you were Putin.
    So why do you think he's stupid?
    You're deflecting, you said years in the planning, meticulous, many steps ahead. This has been proven not to be the case.

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    Thank you for your comments.
    What you say makes sense.
    Puts my mind slightly more at rest that there might be a better ending than is currently apparent.

    Hopefully he fucks himself up.

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    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...aims-1.4818514

    Ireland at forefront of ‘anti-Russian events’ in EU, Russian ambassador claims by Ronan McGreevy
    Dublin embassy protests ‘really aggressive’, Yury Filatov says in Russian TV interview
    4 March 2022

    Yury Filatov, Russia’s ambassador to Ireland, has accused protesters of being “rough and really aggressive” at the country’s embassy in Dublin and of intimidating staff and vandalising the embassy’s entrance.

    In an interview with the state-owned Russia 24 television station, Mr Filatov said the situation in Ireland is “frankly difficult”, and he accused the country of being to the forefront of “anti-Russian events” in the European Union.

    Blaming the Irish media for portraying an “absolutely tendentious picture” of the Ukraine invasion, the ambassador told Russian viewers that the Irish public is hostile to “Russia and everything Russian”.

    Since Russia’s invasion on February 24th, crowds have gathered outside the embassy on Orwell Road, Rathgar, every day, while red paint was thrown over one of the gateposts on the first day.

    Since then, wall plaques have been removed and further graffiti has been painted on the embassy’s walls of slogans such as “Nazis”, “blood on your hands” and “f**k Russia”.

    Staff are dealing with the Garda Síochána about the “vandalism” of the embassy, said the ambassador, adding that they have also received many telephone calls and emails from Irish people angered by the invasion.

    People in the West are “going crazy” about the invasion and it is impacting on Russians living in Ireland: “They receive reprisal threats. Unfortunately, there are cases of bullying,” he said. So far, there is no independent evidence of this.

    “This is very sad because in general, in my opinion, the Irish are kind and responsive.But sometimes when they absolutely don’t understand the situation, they take sides without any analysis and they act based on it.

    “This is influencing our kids, unfortunately, who are studying here. We are limited in what we can do. We are staying in contact with them, supporting each other and giving advice,” the ambassador continued.

    “If there are specific cases we will escalate to the ministry of foreign affairs. Our people are keeping well. We know about when they have contacted the gardaí. In this case, if necessary, we can provide advice to them,” he went on.

    Russian citizens
    Ireland is home to 5,000 Russian citizens and 5,000 more Russian speakers from other eastern European countries, while 80 Russian citizens cannot return easily to Russia because of the flight ban.

    The embassy is directing them through alternative routes via Istanbul, he told Russia 24 in an interview that was available on YouTube in Russia, but not in Ireland.

    A copy of it was sent to Russian citizen Masha Vasilieva who has been living in Ireland for the last nine years. She translated it and posted the translated version on YouTube. Her translation has been verified.

    Ms Vasilieva said the vast majority of Russians living in Ireland are against the war in Ukraine and are supportive of the people, adding that the embassy protests have been wholly peaceful.

    Russian citizens in Ireland are gathering every evening at 7pm near the Spire on O’Connell Street to protest against the invasion following a call from Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

    There have been numerous calls for Mr Filatov and the rest of the staff at the Russian embassy in Ireland to be expelled from the country, but the Government has said it needs to keep lines of communications open.

    An interview, which Mr Filatov gave to RTÉ News presenter David McCullagh justifying the invasion, has gone viral internationally. It has been viewed more than 6.4 million times.
    This is incredible stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EscortInspector View Post
    Shocked to read the attack on us by the Russian ambassador I think it was out of order.

    But sure we are only stupid apparently.

    I also hope that our Russian community are not getting the brunt of ignorant peoples views.

    Because a dictators ambassador can hardly be the true spokesperson for all Russian views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EscortInspector View Post
    Hopefully they don't target Ireland aswell because we don't have any war inventory ie tanks, bombs, guns!

    We would be wiped out unless America were to help us but again there would be logistical issues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie9 View Post
    Hopefully they don't target Ireland aswell because we don't have any war inventory ie tanks, bombs, guns!

    We would be wiped out unless America were to help us but again there would be logistical issues!
    In fairness to them I'd say the Brits would help us out if we're attacked . We're an irrelevance though as far as Russia is concerned, thankfully.
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    No, not defending Putin... Just posting some facts and reasons why Russian ethnic minority mainly living in the eastern part of Ukraine got a bit concerned when corrupt pro-russian president Janukovich was replaced in coup by pro-US corrupt president/clown/comedian Zelenskiy. Jew by the way, who does not mind tolerrating those descendants of Nazis as his allies, who exterminated his ancestors from Ukraine in WW2. Democratic president of Ukraine who has promissed to ban Russian language ( Lavrov made a fool of himself referencing ban of English language in Ireland), spoken natively by 30% of Ukraines population, imprisoned main oposition leader and banned 3 major oposition media outlets.

    Ukraine 1945
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_W...(1st_Galician)

    Ukraine 2014
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
    https://the-beacon.ie/2022/02/24/iri...zov-battalion/
    https://www.firstpost.com/world/russ...-10419921.html

    Irish had Famine, Ukraine had Holodomor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

    Usefull summary from a world renown political/war corenspondent fired for refusing to sell war

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