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    Smile Kat is boss!

    Hi Kat, a pretty pm-defo!

    I was suprised by some of your policy, because you are very correct!
    and our current politicians don't yet see what we see. The system
    encouraged poor people to have large families, who will probably, fail school, crime etc...
    lovely new houses(social)-become ghettoes here, by allowing pricks mess it
    up for all the decent folk.

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    It's not just that.
    I'm rather annoyed, that I pay all that tax and it gets spend on people, who do not want to contribute ever in their life or make some countries their destination as they sit in pretty houses rather then in a well maintained camp, till their cases gets decided.


    Probably, I wouldn't be very popular with some of my policies though.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    It's not just that.
    I'm rather annoyed, that I pay all that tax and it gets spend on people, who do not want to contribute ever in their life or make some countries their destination as they sit in pretty houses rather then in a well maintained camp, till their cases gets decided.


    Probably, I wouldn't be very popular with some of my policies though.....
    You're starting to sound like a NAZI-where did you say you're from?

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    Hi Anita!

    I'm wary of that socialist stuff!
    Did it work anywhere?
    Nazism is extreme right wing.
    This country has created a massive dependent class.
    people who cannot 'fit-in', are a danger to others through crime,
    or a burden on competent folk, at best.
    I dont know much about the refugee situation.
    I know the nation is temporarily donald ducked, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseone View Post
    Hi Anita!

    I'm wary of that socialist stuff!
    Did it work anywhere?
    Nazism is extreme right wing.
    This country has created a massive dependent class.
    people who cannot 'fit-in', are a danger to others through crime,
    or a burden on competent folk, at best.
    I dont know much about the refugee situation.
    I know the nation is temporarily donald ducked, though!

    w

    What are you comlaining about When I first came here, back 1992, every other person was on the dole, and lovin it., so what's changed? You've got refugees,? Didn't the minister of foreign affairs tell you, and other Western Cultures, you don't have any NATURAL RESOURCES, but them Africans do-you getta let them in, if you want a so-call standard of living

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    Quote Originally Posted by anitasizzle View Post
    You're starting to sound like a NAZI-where did you say you're from?
    When I meant camps, I meant dormitory/hostel style accomondation and not locked up either... with all human rights and needs intact....... I'm in support of humanatarian aid/help as it is vital for a lot of people, yet I think due to the way it's beeing handeled in the Uk and Ireland, leaves it very open to exploitation. And I'm sure there is plenty, who make these countries their prime destionation, cos it's so easy to "ride the system". And it's easy to go "missing", if your case fails. That is just an opinion.

    I think, you leave your home country for two main reason, which is either war, or over a human right issue, occasionally political. So you go, cos you are in danger and you fear for your life. What the country you go to should provide, is basics like food, shelter, medical help, if someone is in "serious" danger, should these things not be enough? Possibly a few extra depending, how long the person expects to stay. And should the person not feel greatful towards the country, who takes it in? A dormitory, style accomondation is perfect imo, you can keep tab on people, you can concentrate the services provided to them to one place. Then once the person it's decided, that they will not be able to ever return or for a fair few years, they would fall into a complately different cathegory and should start to integrate into sociaty.
    The idea is generally, that you leave a country, where there is war, with the intend, that you will return, once the country is deemed safe I tought, so temporary accomondation is perfect.

    Anyhow this is just my tought. I guess we all have our opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    It's not just that.
    I'm rather annoyed, that I pay all that tax and it gets spend on people, who do not want to contribute ever in their life or make some countries their destination as they sit in pretty houses rather then in a well maintained camp, till their cases gets decided.


    Probably, I wouldn't be very popular with some of my policies though.....
    Your not suggesting that your paying income tax on your escort earnings are you?

    Just wondering,
    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    When I meant camps, I meant dormitory/hostel style accomondation and not locked up either... with all human rights and needs intact....... I'm in support of humanatarian aid/help as it is vital for a lot of people, yet I think due to the way it's beeing handeled in the Uk and Ireland, leaves it very open to exploitation. And I'm sure there is plenty, who make these countries their prime destionation, cos it's so easy to "ride the system". And it's easy to go "missing", if your case fails. That is just an opinion.


    I think, you leave your home country for two main reason, which is either war, or over a human right issue, occasionally political. So you go, cos you are in danger and you fear for your life. What the country you go to should provide, is basics like food, shelter, medical help, if someone is in "serious" danger, should these things not be enough? Possibly a few extra depending, how long the person expects to stay. And should the person not feel greatful towards the country, who takes it in? A dormitory, style accomondation is perfect imo, you can keep tab on people, you can concentrate the services provided to them to one place. Then once the person it's decided, that they will not be able to ever return or for a fair few years, they would fall into a complately different cathegory and should start to integrate into sociaty.
    The idea is generally, that you leave a country, where there is war, with the intend, that you will return, once the country is deemed safe I tought, so temporary accomondation is perfect.

    Anyhow this is just my tought. I guess we all have our opinions.
    When I left my 'my home country'', it was for politcal reasons, and no, I didn't run to social welfare office event hough some Irish people were kind enough to point me in that direction.

    I don't think about people on the dole, I use to live in Chicago, and on my way to work I'd see blocks and blocks of HIGH-RISE appartments housing the city's unfortunates, and I'd say to myself. ''that's poverity of the brain''.

    I could careless where my taxes go,, if I piad them, as long as they weren't spent on the US military machine

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    Well, good on you Anita, and I'm certain no citizens of any country have any problems, with the people, who are resourcefull and will make the effort to contribute as soon as they are legaly allowed to, but there are plenty (I think anyway), who either have no intetions. Or they don't make their way out of their countries for genuine reasons and they dissapear after their cases fails. So the dormitory idea is to A, giving the proper support all at one place, B, people can be deported, if need to be, C, if managed well, is cheaper.

    There are plenty of escorts, who pay tax (though I'm sure there are plenty, who don't). We all want a house/flat etc., so you have to have some kind of records....
    Dublin tbc , Belfast tbc, Cork tbc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Well, good on you Anita, and I'm certain no citizens of any country have any problems, with the people, who are resourcefull and will make the effort to contribute as soon as they are legaly allowed to, but there are plenty (I think anyway), who either have no intetions. Or they don't make their way out of their countries for genuine reasons and they dissapear after their cases fails. So the dormitory idea is to A, giving the proper support all at one place, B, people can be deported, if need to be, C, if managed well, is cheaper.

    There are plenty of escorts, who pay tax (though I'm sure there are plenty, who don't). We all want a house/flat etc., so you have to have some kind of records....

    It sounds like a leper colony to me.


    The IRS matched me into they're office one day, and said I owed them money because I hadn't paid taxes, I told them I was willing to go to jail, but they said they don't send people to jail, that was back in 1994, they never got their money

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