Worst news ever

[Ladyvonteese]

I think many guys will think twice before contacting a girl who advertises such as “Fu*k my Ass and Hot Wet Pussy, CIM, OWO Drain Me and My Ass and Pussy Dry etc 50, 100, 200 etc Euros everything included! Or in fact shows her face”

If a client did get caught then the police have to prove in a court he was in fact with said lady/guy to pay for sex or a sex act. I think even when a girl changes the way of advertising and removes her face from her adverts she has still left a paper trail for them to use in the court case to provide a conviction. (Which the UK Courts did use to prosecute but also to make the New Law’s regarding the fetish scene). Example: there is a slave here who has posted many threads with his ass bleeding and has made many a statement of who in fact marked his ass in such a way, now in the UK this person doing this is able be charged with GBH and when in court be given a prison sentence. And they would not need much more evidence needed due to his statements on the internet and bearing in mind most Irish Laws come from the UK too.

I am sure I am not the only girl on such websites who never advertises sex or sex acts for sale, shows her face, never and ever will work in a brothel or mentions to every Tom, Dick or Harry over the internet, via a phone call, pm, email or to any Government official who maybe pretending to be a client the sale of sex but in fact payment is for our time only, I am guessing us types of discreet girls run out business’s this discreetly and who also pay our tax( for other jobs than that of escorting), who make it totally clear when we chat/meet with clients they are only paying for our time (not sex acts) our client will feel these laws will not have to affect as much as those who plaster money for sex all over the place.

Many clients who will be changing their tactics when making a booking will be contacting girls like myself and who run our business in this much more safer and more discreet manner for all parties involved.

I can’t see many guys who will still be visiting girls in brothels or who may not be working her legally, taking drugs etc, as of course Guards will be offering such girls/guys in this business doing so if caught, a “get out of jail free card” so the Guards then will be able to make an example of these guys found paying for sex. After all this is Ireland!

Lady Von teese

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/p...-30771617.html

[hunterhilman]

It will be a minefield for us guys from both sides as we will have to choose our girls very carefully and at the same time avoid being caught, what a headache

[Red and Horny]

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/p...-30771617.html

That is bad news.
But how are they gonna prove if a man has payed for sex.
We're all concenting adults here so they can go and fuck themselfs!

[Empirical]

I'm sorry, I'm a tad confused, could someone please explain, in simple terms, how a ladies safety will be compromised under this law ? I honestly believe it would strengthen safety, surely if something happens during an appointment, the girl, as she is breaking no law, can report it to the authorities with no fear of repercussions and the penalty for the punter would be greater as he is now breaking more laws ?
Maybe I'm just being naive, Caitriona, could you explain perhaps ?

For starters:

1. Streetwalkers won't have the time to assess the potential client/john, may make inappropriate choices.

2. If this is about trafficking, the available evidence says that it doesn't work. If you *really* want to reduce trafficking, then go for the New Zealand decriminalisation model. (If you're just anti-sex, the Nordic model is better.)

3. It partly depends on the small print. In Sweden, a working girl can be evicted from her flat/apartment, for it's illegal for the landlord to rent it to her. In other words, the cops can, if they wish, get very heavy with landlords.

In Sweden, the cops can get details of mobile phone calls: not clear if this will be possible in RoI. (Not really possible in NI)

4. How can any provider be sure that the potential client is genuine? If it's a sting with a cop, you can be sure that they can find something; even a single-occupancy flat where the providers rotate can be regarded as a brothel.

5. Providers have a hard enough time reporting violence at present; the cops aren't likely to be sympathetic. If one side of the transaction is now criminalised, won't the cops want all details of previous clients from her?

6. BUT: both buyers and sellers are criminalised in the wonderful US of A. And guess what? Whatever the intention behind the law was, it's not anyway effective.

[Empirical]

Oh, I nearly forgot, n73:

do a search for "petite Jasmine" to see what can happen to providers in Sweden.

[annabel taylor]

Did I miss the bit where it said when this law will be enforced or is that not known yet?

Not any point soon, but they all have there knickers in twist for a while, thinking they could use evidence of punting before the law is passed into law as evidence which is nonsense but punters are like wild horses need breaking in

Drugs are illegal for both buyer and seller, and you could prob get coke delivered faster than an outcall

[Yamser]

Not any point soon, but they all have there knickers in twist for a while, thinking they could use evidence of punting before the law is passed into law as evidence which is nonsense but punters are like wild horses need breaking in

Drugs are illegal for both buyer and seller, and you could prob get coke delivered faster than an outcall

your right there lol

[Meursault]

Not any point soon, but they all have there knickers in twist for a while, thinking they could use evidence of punting before the law is passed into law as evidence which is nonsense but punters are like wild horses need breaking in

Drugs are illegal for both buyer and seller, and you could prob get coke delivered faster than an outcall

you could get cocaine easier than a chinese these days.......silk road would send it to you before it was shut down

[Meursault]

In the beginning they will have to be seen to be doing something I would think.

im not saying this on emotion, but i dont think it will be policed. its mainly for the trafficked women

[Elizaparkeruk]

im not saying this on emotion, but i dont think it will be policed. its mainly for the trafficked women

As i said before:

"Where there is a will there will always be a way... the devil will be in the fine print. You can not arrest a man for having a sex with a woman he met through a website like "Ashlymadison," so how can you prove that they met for financially solicited sex.

It will be hard to prove it".