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    Quote Originally Posted by robijntje View Post
    Something of worth to you... Make sure it's not a human being.

    In today's society, money and self-importance are they key values to continue on. Humans will always look after themselves first, before addressing any other being. As long as you have money, you will be helped, with a fake smile, fake words and someone who listens to you... as long as you pay. Once you're out of money, out of time or simply a person in need that cannot supply money, people try to get rid of you as soon as possible. They don't say it, but you can hear it, feel it, but it is hard to understand.

    Should we blame them then? I don't know if you can blame anyone, but as it seems, if you have a problem, the general message is: 'Go solve it on your own, come back if you have money.'

    Sad but true story.
    i hope this is not going to turn into a health services bashing thread.there are a lot of us working our nuts off.as usual the bad
    experenices make good headlines. the doc;

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr love View Post
    i hope this is not going to turn into a health services bashing thread.there are a lot of us working our nuts off.as usual the bad
    experenices make good headlines. the doc;
    I'm not necessarily talking about the health services, although for a psychiatrist, you're not a person, you're a number. But for most people you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robijntje View Post
    I'm not necessarily talking about the health services, although for a psychiatrist, you're not a person, you're a number. But for most people you are.
    no psychiatrist thinks of a person as a number how dare you say that. iwork in the surgical field and would get referrals from
    psychiatrists and i would never never think of a person in that way .
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr love View Post
    no psychiatrist thinks of a person as a number how dare you say that. iwork in the surgical field and would get referrals from
    psychiatrists and i would never never think of a person in that way .
    ENRAGED ;the doc;
    Be enraged all you want. Or blame me, for only knowing bad ones then. It's simply everywhere: 'yeah I'm suicidal.' 'Would you like to make an appointment, Sir?' You could be dead by the time you get a fricking appointment...

    Being suicidal is in most cases a desperate cry for attention, but not the type attention a 16 year old would want. More like 'I'm sick. I don't know what to do anymore. Help me...' But do people care? Oh no, bad for him/her, but the world keeps spinning anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robijntje View Post
    Be enraged all you want. Or blame me, for only knowing bad ones then. It's simply everywhere: 'yeah I'm suicidal.' 'Would you like to make an appointment, Sir?' You could be dead by the time you get a fricking appointment...

    Being suicidal is in most cases a desperate cry for attention, but not the type attention a 16 year old would want. More like 'I'm sick. I don't know what to do anymore. Help me...' But do people care? Oh no, bad for him/her, but the world keeps spinning anyway.
    More and more people are discovering that one of the worst and most destructive things you could do is to visit a psychiatrist. They will invariably "diagnose" you with something and say you need this medication to get better. If you take the pills you are destroying your body and especially your brain.

    "dr love", whether you are working your nuts off or not is irrelevant to whether people should be going to these psychiatrists. You work yourself for money, if you don't think it's worth doing it then quit.

    All of the supposed anti-depressant SSRI pills cause people to commit suicide and homicide. This is a clear and absolute FACT and they by law even have to have warnings on the boxes and the leaflets about what they might cause. I've seen people even here trying to deny this or think it must be somehow wrong but it is not wrong, the pharmaceutical industry tried all sorts of things to get out of it but as the years went by and more and more people were killed by murder or suicide they finally had to accept it and they put it down as a "potential side effect". They shouldn't be allowed to ever sell those pills at all.

    Here's a documentary about it you might find interesting:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    All of the supposed anti-depressant SSRI pills cause people to commit suicide and homicide. This is a clear and absolute FACT and they by law even have to have warnings on the boxes and the leaflets about what they might cause.
    Could you provide a link or something to prove this???

    Thanks.......

    BTW, a video on youtube is not evidence or fact.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    I've seen people even here trying to deny this or think it must be somehow wrong but it is not wrong
    Perhaps because they think it's not true.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    BTW, a video on youtube is not evidence or fact.......
    Especially when the video is produced by a cult. Citizens Commission on Human Rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I see as usual this thread has turned into a debate.. Mental illness is not something you can recognise by looking at someone.. but it carries a lot of stigma.. hardly surprising the way some spoke in this thread that people who endure mental illness try to battle it by themselves... I suppose what troubles some people on here is if you can`t see it.. it does not exist.. x

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONEGALANGEL View Post
    I see as usual this thread has turned into a debate.. Mental illness is not something you can recognise by looking at someone.. but it carries a lot of stigma.. hardly surprising the way some spoke in this thread that people who endure mental illness try to battle it by themselves... I suppose what troubles some people on here is if you can`t see it.. it does not exist.. x
    there are very few ppl actually mentally ill. Very few. Most of those who say or think or are told by whoever that they are mentally ill just dont have their thoughts in check. There is nothing scientific about this. An action is an accumulation of thoughts put into being. Think about a thing long enough and often enough and it becomes habitual, to the point of you not even knowing it.

    By all means promote mental health ,by all means promote balance if thats what suits a person, but keep it real and stop blowing the thing out of proportion. I have met quite a few screwed up heads but i cant think of one that required intervention. I can however thinkl of a few that sought intervention and ended up worse with less money too.

    just my feelings on it,
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    More and more people are discovering that one of the worst and most destructive things you could do is to visit a psychiatrist. They will invariably "diagnose" you with something and say you need this medication to get better. If you take the pills you are destroying your body and especially your brain.

    "dr love", whether you are working your nuts off or not is irrelevant to whether people should be going to these psychiatrists. You work yourself for money, if you don't think it's worth doing it then quit.

    All of the supposed anti-depressant SSRI pills cause people to commit suicide and homicide. This is a clear and absolute FACT and they by law even have to have warnings on the boxes and the leaflets about what they might cause. I've seen people even here trying to deny this or think it must be somehow wrong but it is not wrong, the pharmaceutical industry tried all sorts of things to get out of it but as the years went by and more and more people were killed by murder or suicide they finally had to accept it and they put it down as a "potential side effect". They shouldn't be allowed to ever sell those pills at all.

    Here's a documentary about it you might find interesting:

    Thank you! As I say, love and affection is the best treatment.
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