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Originally Posted by
Mister Anderson
All for the sake of some lunatic that may or may not have existed 2 thousand years ago. I thought this fucker died for our sins? If so then why are we still suffering?
#thesoundofonegodlaughing
It is fairly likely some such individual existed. There is some reference in Josephus often put forward as evidence. It is unlikely he would have seen himself as divine, but probably was a zealous preacher type, interpreting and trying to improve the Jewish religion. The divinity and other claptrap came later, starting with St. Paul and continuing to the Council of Nicea.
Jesus was probably a wild eyed provincial preacher, with followers and gathering more, in the streets and markets of Jerusalem during the festival of Passover was it.
The Jewish religious authorities /priesthood likely saw him as rabble rousing upstart and wanted rid.
The Roman garrison, always on the lookout for potential rebellion also would have seen his removal as advisible, so he was consigned to the standard means of execution for non-Roman citizens-crucifixion..
The defication came later and the fact the religion got going at all was probably a fluke. The rebellion eventually got going in 66AD,was largely over by 70AD, when the Romans re-entered Jerusalem and eventually petered out at Masada in 73AD.
Jesus was likely a Gandhi type figure but was taken out because of a perceived, possibility of inflaming tensions during a busy, Jewish pilgrimage, festival. Probably many others suffered similar fates but they faded from historical view.
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Shalom/salaam.
10,000 years of Middle Eastern civilisation and the place is not at peace but rather in pieces.