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    This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute. Business owners should be able to turn away business if they want to, it is called freedom.

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    This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute.
    It has been widely acknowledged that the case is unwise.
    Especially when the people who ordered the cake knew the religious beliefs of the bakery owners.

    But, under Contract Law, in that jurisdiction, business owners can refuse to accept an order, without assigning a reason.
    It was when they gave an allegedly prejudiced reason for refusing the order, that the possibility of legal action arose.


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    This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute. Business owners should be able to turn away business if they want to, it is called freedom.

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    sometimes people its easier to just agree and move on. i know they had beliefs and what not, but all they were asked was to do some decoration on a cake, not enrich uranium for Iran. If they had just done what they had done thousands of times i imagine on different cakes, they would not be in court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meursault View Post
    sometimes people its easier to just agree and move on. i know they had beliefs and what not, but all they were asked was to do some decoration on a cake, not enrich uranium for Iran. If they had just done what they had done thousands of times i imagine on different cakes, they would not be in court.
    Agree and move on. Live and let live. Let consenting adults........etc. etc.
    Religion. It doesn't work like that.

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    In the UK last year a gay couple were turned away from a B & B because the owners were religious & didn't believe in same sex relationships, they too were sued & lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Sandy 69 View Post
    In the UK last year a gay couple were turned away from a B & B because the owners were religious & didn't believe in same sex relationships, they too were sued & lost.

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    If I remember correctly they picked out a B&B that was ran by a retired couple who had a known policy of no unmarried couples in a double room regardless of gender. I was a dark day for the LGBT community when they tried to force their belief system on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute.
    It has been widely acknowledged that the case is unwise.
    Especially when the people who ordered the cake knew the religious beliefs of the bakery owners.

    But, under Contract Law, in that jurisdiction, business owners can refuse to accept an order, without assigning a reason.
    It was when they gave an allegedly prejudiced reason for refusing the order, that the possibility of legal action arose.
    They have a right to refuse any slogans they don't agree with. I didn't now that Ashers was a christian family buisness until this compete waste of time came up. The gay activists obviously went in knowing full well that they'd get refused service. It's like me going in and asking for a cake with "Atheists Rule" or "IRA/UVF", pretty obvious a christian organisation isn't going to make these.

    The gay activists new what they where doing knowing fine rightly the bakery would bite

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStark View Post
    They have a right to refuse any slogans they don't agree with. I didn't now that Ashers was a christian family buisness until this compete waste of time came up. The gay activists obviously went in knowing full well that they'd get refused service. It's like me going in and asking for a cake with "Atheists Rule" or "IRA/UVF", pretty obvious a christian organisation isn't going to make these.

    The gay activists new what they where doing knowing fine rightly the bakery would bite
    Not a great way to run a business. Remember though, they are not allowed to discriminate against a group in that way. And there is still no mention on their website that they will not decorate a cake that has lgbt links. Their terms and conditions do not exclude them. Also , have you any proof that the customer had any idea that ashers would react in this way or that they were diliberatly trying to provoke ashers?
    There was nothing illegal or offensive being asked for.

    I mean, who wouldn't want Bert and Ernie on their cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute. Business owners should be able to turn away business if they want to, it is called freedom.
    I agree. And if I don't want my business wrecked by tossers of any so called minority I should be able to tell them so.
    In reality I'm not

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