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  1. Fitzgerald said it herself last year -- ''this is...

    Fitzgerald said it herself last year -- ''this is about sending a message that it isn't acceptable to buy girls.'' And there you have the stupidity of this legislation in one handy sentence. Nothing...
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    No! And furthermore no....

    No! And furthermore no....
  3. Client criminalisation has nothing to do with...

    Client criminalisation has nothing to do with trafficking. It was introduced in Sweden as a feminist issue, in Canada last year as a self confessed attempt to stamp out prostitution and here in the...
  4. This is a huge slap in the face for sex work...

    This is a huge slap in the face for sex work haters worldwide, but particularly here, with the historic vote being taken in Dublin itself. This decision is based on years of research and consultation...
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    Chris if you want to PM me I can give you a few...

    Chris if you want to PM me I can give you a few pointers.
  6. No legislation should be passed without lobbyist...

    No legislation should be passed without lobbyist figures being fully verified. This and so many other TORL 'facts' are simply fantasy stats with no basis in reality.

    The numbers thrown around...
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    Is there a clause banning one night stands as...

    Is there a clause banning one night stands as well? Is having casual sex with a drunk partner more acceptable than paying for sex with a sober one?

    Sounds like your friend's work have a...
  8. As we know, those caring folk in TORL and Ruhama...

    As we know, those caring folk in TORL and Ruhama read these boards and no doubt they will now be pressuring Frances Fitzgerald to decriminalise sex workers working together. That should not only...
  9. The hierarchy certainly hasn't won this battle...

    The hierarchy certainly hasn't won this battle and it's easy to see why. Prohibition doesn't work. Look at the USA where (aside from part of Nevada) it's been illegal to buy sex for well over a...
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    Lady Kate's breasts are absolutely world class :D

    Lady Kate's breasts are absolutely world class :D
  11. Thread: "new law"

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    From the 'antis' viewpoint, the end justifies the...

    From the 'antis' viewpoint, the end justifies the means. If only one person has been coercively trafficked in the last decade, that makes it OK to pretend the problem is huge, as the resultant...
  12. Thread: "new law"

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    In the North at least, the political force...

    In the North at least, the political force driving this was basically religious zealotry. Coercive sex trafficking barely exists in NI, something the likes of the DUP are well aware of, but are happy...
  13. Thread: "new law"

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    The 'haters' are a bizarre mix of religionists,...

    The 'haters' are a bizarre mix of religionists, opportunistic NGOs, naive do-gooders and a relatively small but noisy brand of feminism.

    All are wrong -- the biblical Jesus had more time and...
  14. Thread: "new law"

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    This law is currently only in place in Northern...

    This law is currently only in place in Northern Ireland. It doesn't apply to the South or to anywhere else in the UK and was recently rejected by both Westminster and the Scottish Assembly. Despite...
  15. A great thread title. Laura is inspirational and...

    A great thread title. Laura is inspirational and fights for what she believes in, which is quite simply the safety and rights of sex workers.

    She has taken a shedload of shit from those opposed to...
  16. There's also a very good opinion piece by Newton...

    There's also a very good opinion piece by Newton Emerson in yesterday's Sunday Times, showing how the DUP's moral crusade was dressed up as a bogus human trafficking issue.

    Quote: ''If Morrow...
  17. Groundhog day for those of us who assumed it was...

    Groundhog day for those of us who assumed it was illegal on our first visit.
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    You're certainly full of yourself I'll give you...

    You're certainly full of yourself I'll give you that. No-one responded to your 'points' on this thread because they were irrelevant to the topic and I was personally embarrassed for you.

    No need...
  19. Magdalene nuns claiming public funding to care...

    Magdalene nuns claiming public funding to care for 'fallen women', while claiming they've no money to compensate the thousands they abused last time.
    Homophobic statements from elected...
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    Quite possibly, though had the result been the...

    Quite possibly, though had the result been the other way round, it's a fair bet TORL would have been trumpeting this to every media outlet in the land.
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    Neither. I'm commenting on the result of a poll...

    Neither. I'm commenting on the result of a poll on an Irish website.
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    Interesting Poll Result on Journal.ie

    Yesterday the Journal.ie ran a poll asking if it should be a crime to pay for sex. There were over 14 000 votes and the results won't have made happy reading for TORL or Ruhama.

    66% said it...
  23. This law is going to kill sex work stone dead,...

    This law is going to kill sex work stone dead, just like it has in Sweden and the USA. Oh wait....
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    How is this post ''impenetrable''? It's simply...

    How is this post ''impenetrable''? It's simply giving the facts on how the law has been enacted in Sweden.

    Of course it's up to each client to weigh up the risks for themselves, but it helps when...
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    Swedish figures overall suggest that the chances...

    Swedish figures overall suggest that the chances of being apprehended as a client are somewhere around 5%.

    It does need to be remembered that this is NOT about trafficking. This is about, as...
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