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[EIFII]

Somehow, that idea never seems to register with others. And yet it's so obviously correct.

It is not at all obviously correct.
The idea that everyone always pays for sex one way or another is a very jaundiced and cynical view of healthy mutual relationships.
It has been my privilege to share my life with a lady to our mutual enjoyment and benefit. Of course there are costs involved, which we both contributed to paying for. But ultimately we both chose to be there, committed to each other because we both wanted to be there, not because one was paying or compensating the other. And of course sex was a natural expression of our commitment and enjoyment of each other.

[Empirical]

EIFII: Oh, it is. Not as a direct cash payment, though. More like a new washing machine, jewellery etc. A dinner out, it's all indirectly a payment.

(And if you are in a committed relationship, with each paying their way, what are you dong here?)

[EIFII]

EIFII: Oh, it is. Not as a direct cash payment, though. More like a new washing machine, jewellery etc. A dinner out, it's all indirectly a payment.

(And if you are in a committed relationship, with each paying their way, what are you dong here?)

Empirical: no, the examples you give are either of mutual benefit, or are a gift given as a sincere token of your affection and love for the recipient. Or do you buy new clothes instead of washing them. In a positive and healthy relationship, I do not believe your examples constitute a payment for sex.

(And if you feel it is your right to ask extremely personal and potentially judgemental questions on a public forum, I will simply state that it is my right not to answer, and not to be judged. Remembering that judging me says more about you than it does about me. However what I will say here is that life is not black and white, a binary choice between moral absolutes. If you genuinely want to know more, pm me.)

[Empirical]

Empirical: no, the examples you give are either of mutual benefit, or are a gift given as a sincere token of your affection and love for the recipient. Or do you buy new clothes instead of washing them. In a positive and healthy relationship, I do not believe your examples constitute a payment for sex.

(And if you feel it is your right to ask extremely personal and potentially judgemental questions on a public forum, I will simply state that it is my right not to answer, and not to be judged. Remembering that judging me says more about you than it does about me. However what I will say here is that life is not black and white, a binary choice between moral absolutes. If you genuinely want to know more, pm me.)

It was rude of me to ask; I apologise.