new rules?

[jayf1]

i just noticed the new rule about posting threads in the warning section about escorts using fake photos.
i posted a thread about an escort using fake photos last night but i have to say i didnt know about the new rule maybe because they change them so much and i thought that that was a part of what the warning section was for.
the new rule says more or less that we cant post about an escort using fake photos just leave a fake photo report.
i think thats a bit silly as when we leave more than 2 fake photo reports the escort just creates a new profile and uploads more fake photos and gets away from her old fake photo reports.
but i thought that any fake photo reports were ment to be carried onto her new profile and if they were the new rule wouldnt be as much of a problem but it seems that e-i dont carry them on and now we have no way of letting others know.
as far as i can see this new rule just serves to help dishonest escorts that use fake photos to fool clients.

[sharkskin]

I find the new rules confusing.

Suppose I would see a profile and spot that the photos are taken from some other place on the net. I can submit a fake photo report. If the report includes a link to the original photos in some other location then the report will be considered valid and the escort will get a fake photo report to her name.

That seems fair.

But what if I visit an escort and the photos are clearly of another woman? I cannot find the photos on the net but clearly they are of a different person. I cannot submit a fake photo report as I cannot locate the fakes on the net and now I am not allowed to post in the warning forum as that is no longer allowed.

This sounds like a charter for excorts to use fake photos as they can no longer be challenged.

[samlad]

I find the new rules confusing.

Suppose I would see a profile and spot that the photos are taken from some other place on the net. I can submit a fake photo report. If the report includes a link to the original photos in some other location then the report will be considered valid and the escort will get a fake photo report to her name.

That seems fair.

But what if I visit an escort and the photos are clearly of another woman? I cannot find the photos on the net but clearly they are of a different person. I cannot submit a fake photo report as I cannot locate the fakes on the net and now I am not allowed to post in the warning forum as that is no longer allowed.

This sounds like a charter for excorts to use fake photos as they can no longer be challenged.

You can state this in a fake photo report and this will be noted on the system. When there is more than one report for the same issue, we will intervene.

[sharkskin]

In response to my:

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But what if I visit an escort and the photos are clearly of another woman? I cannot find the photos on the net but clearly they are of a different person. I cannot submit a fake photo report as I cannot locate the fakes on the net and now I am not allowed to post in the warning forum as that is no longer allowed.
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samlad wrote:

You can state this in a fake photo report and this will be noted on the system. When there is more than one report for the same issue, we will intervene.

If I look at the new rules I see:

5) Fake photo reports do not warrant a thread in the warning section. If you wish to submit a fake photo report, please go to the escort profile page, click on the link at the bottom of the page to 'Report Fake Pictures'. In the report, you will need to include the links to the original source of the pictures; Tineye, Google Images and any other reverse image search result links do not warrant as a valid link to a report.

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In the text box, all you need to do is submit a link to the original source of the photographs.

From this, I understand that, a fake photo report has to be accompanied by links to the source of the photo on the net. My point is that there is now no way for clients to report the situation where they turn up and are confronted by a woman who is clearly not the woman in the pictures but the client is not able to identify a source for the pictures. Perhaps the pictures were scanned from a print publication or taken from a part of the net that the likes of tineye do not access or perhaps they have been mildly photoshopped in such a way as to prevent tineye from recognising a match.

[jayf1]

In response to my:



samlad wrote:



If I look at the new rules I see:

5) Fake photo reports do not warrant a thread in the warning section. If you wish to submit a fake photo report, please go to the escort profile page, click on the link at the bottom of the page to 'Report Fake Pictures'. In the report, you will need to include the links to the original source of the pictures; Tineye, Google Images and any other reverse image search result links do not warrant as a valid link to a report.

and

In the text box, all you need to do is submit a link to the original source of the photographs.

From this, I understand that, a fake photo report has to be accompanied by links to the source of the photo on the net. My point is that there is now no way for clients to report the situation where they turn up and are confronted by a woman who is clearly not the woman in the pictures but the client is not able to identify a source for the pictures. Perhaps the pictures were scanned from a print publication or taken from a part of the net that the likes of tineye do not access or perhaps they have been mildly photoshopped in such a way as to prevent tineye from recognising a match.

i think what samlad ment there was that if you turn up and the escort is not the one in the pictures you can leave a fake photo report stating that she was not the girl in the pictures.
this type of report will not be activated as a fake photo report but e-i will make a note of it and if they get 2 reports like that they will take action.
where i have a problem with this is clients will have no way of knowing how many of this type of report an escort may have and we have to trust that e-i will be true to their word and after 2 such reports will take action.
and i'm sorry to say judging by what i have seen in the past i have no faith that e-i will be true to their word.

[Techno Viking]

Agree with everything you say Jay and the others who have posted, very well said by all of you

I am also curious about several things and would like clarification.

What exactly can be posted in the warning section now?

From what I can understand, you are NOT allowed to:
- post threads about spoooofers using fake photos
- post threads about different girls using the same number or very similar numbers
- post threads about suspicious movements of large groups of girls
- post threads about underage teenage girls found to be advertised here and working in appartments effectively being raped
- post threads linking suspicious profiles as since new url's for profiles were introduced, its vitually impossible
- post threads about 10 girls pictured and working out of the same appartment aka a brothel
- post threads about escorts who have left behind profiles because of bad reviews and set up new ones with clean slate
- post any threads and include a screenshot to provide proof what you are saying is the truth
- post threads about if you meet a spoooofer and she turns out not to be the girl pictured

I would also like to ask where have the majority of valid warning threads gone that were posted in the last few months? Since the post by samlad a few days ago, 90% of the valid warning threads I posted have been deleted and disappeared into thin air, as I am sure have alot of other threads posted by other members. Why were they deleted?

What is the point of the warning section anymore?

We cant post anything in it without it getting deleted or the poster being banned for highlighting such things. Its just space filler now as far as i can see and its looking rather sparse since the majority of threads from jan/feb, since the primetime programme actually, have been deleted.

Us warning forum posters just create more work by creating threads which you have to come along and delete all traces of in the cover of darkness and in alot of cases, delete the user who posted such threads

I say get rid of the forum and save yourselves the effort.

Proactive as always EI, just, as usual not in the way you should be

[jayf1]

I find the new rules confusing.

Suppose I would see a profile and spot that the photos are taken from some other place on the net. I can submit a fake photo report. If the report includes a link to the original photos in some other location then the report will be considered valid and the escort will get a fake photo report to her name.

That seems fair.

But what if I visit an escort and the photos are clearly of another woman? I cannot find the photos on the net but clearly they are of a different person. I cannot submit a fake photo report as I cannot locate the fakes on the net and now I am not allowed to post in the warning forum as that is no longer allowed.

This sounds like a charter for excorts to use fake photos as they can no longer be challenged.

it would seem fair but in reality its not.
the reason i feel its not fair is when an escort with fake photo reports creates a new profile her fake photo reports are not added to her new profile the way reviews are.

[El Gordo]

So what is allowed in the warning section?

[Incognito]

So what is allowed in the warning section?

The end of the world, imminent destruction and approaching storms.

No fake photo reports at all. They're not helpful.

[jayf1]

So what is allowed in the warning section?

not much now.