Clients - Would you pay for E-I?

[Patricia]

I am a little confused as to why the escorts would wish to provide this info that is essentially earning a profit for a site they are already paying for once themselves?

Well we could do a profit share with the escorts providing the extra photos etc clients are paying to see, but that would be rather complicated.

Not having a go, just confused.

You're not the only one, I admit I don't see how this idea could work either!

I only put this poll up because a couple of people asked me to and I felt there was no harm in asking the question.

However, in my mind, logic says you can't charge the advertisers and the website users - It should be one or the other, and we are already charging escorts.

Can you imagine going to a property website, and being charged to view extra info about the properties estate agents and private sellers had paid to advertise there? Doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Pat x

[Appoline]

There's a site over here called Platinum Select that charges both girls to list and guys to get their details... They promote it as 'if the guy has paid to view your details, he is more likely to be genuine.'
Except no client who has spent five minutes or more on the net would use it, as they know that they can find the same girls that are in the paid area on Platinum Select, freely available elsewhere on line!
I guess it would work for them if the girls they show were exclusive to that site... But then why would either the girls, or the clients bother paying when as said, they can both get it for free?!

[Flypan]

Paying? Independent escorts pay 250 euros a month for advertising themselves here, and they get such money back in one hour... Maybe you should make a poll and ask escorts how many clients they get thanks to E-I? I would personally double the advertising rates for escorts to begin with, but first we need to get the review system right, and you have to make sure the photos are real and not 10 year old... and the age they say it's real too... and the services they offer are included, or specify how much for extras... etc... so once there is no chance for misleading information, then you can double the adds rates as they will be getting a lot more business. Pat, you are advertising business... you want us to pay? This is like RTE and TV3 asking viewers to pay for watching TV with adds... yes there is now the pay per view system, but it doesn't include adds, and it's not working as good as it was predicted... First, be the best website (genuine information provided), and when you are the best website then you can decide how much you charge for your adds, adds which are providing business to escorts...

[diver]

I am a little confused as to why the escorts would wish to provide this info that is essentially earning a profit for a site they are already paying for once themselves?
Surely each girl offers just as much or as little info and pictures as she likes, to everyone? I think it unlikely that girls will offer up anything extra to what is in their comfort zone just because some clients are paying a membership fee to someone else for it... Why would they, when they don't get any as over who gets the info as long as he pays, and she is advertising as normal for clients?
Not having a go, just confused.

This goes to the nub of the matter and I can understand your confusion because you are open and genuiely on view. What you see is what you get, so to speak. Unfortunately, you are the exception rather than the rule.
To put it in perspective, I have seen about 20 different escorts in the last year, all of which had "verified" photos. I would say that only 4 were reasonably recognisable from the photos. The recognisable ones were mainly touring girls.
I understand that escorts want to be unrecognisable as they have no idea who might be viewing the site.
The proposal to have "premium" members paying €100+ a year is to establish a level of bona fides. Premium members are almost certain to be genuine clients who see escorts on a frequent basis. The question is whether or not those escorts with fake "verified" photos would be prepared to provide "recognisable" photos if they would only be viewed by genuine clients.
One of the points worth considering is that if escorts sign up to a charter of genuine photos and guaranteed dates for premium members then they could get a discounted advertising rate because Patricia would be picking up income from these premium members.

[diver]

Well we could do a profit share with the escorts providing the extra photos etc clients are paying to see, but that would be rather complicated.



You're not the only one, I admit I don't see how this idea could work either!

I only put this poll up because a couple of people asked me to and I felt there was no harm in asking the question.

However, in my mind, logic says you can't charge the advertisers and the website users - It should be one or the other, and we are already charging escorts.

Can you imagine going to a property website, and being charged to view extra info about the properties estate agents and private sellers had paid to advertise there? Doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Pat x

The poll is wrong in that no one will pay for the current service which is free. this stems from all the problems with reviews and "verified" photos. There are really two polls in one here. The first is for the escorts to see if they would provide enhanced info and better access for premium/genuine clients. The second is whether or not clients would be prepared to pay for this premium service. This would not change the present E-I, it would be a layer on top. One of the advantages is that reviews posted by premium members are mor likely to be genuine

[Flypan]

The poll is wrong because we are looing at the "issue" from the wrong perspective. If Pat wants to increase revenue, I already explained in this threat how to do so. If Pat just wants to deliver more genuine and verifiable info, without incurring cost to escorts neitier punters, then there is only one way: Have the escorts dropp by Pat's office with the pictures and original passport, check the age, check the pictures, and where the pictures are old add a note saying pictures xxx years old. Only when the info is verifiable and genuine, only then Pat may start to think a way to rise more revenue because of the added value to the service provided.

I would really like to know how many punters those escorts get every day... if they were busy enough, happy enough with their business, they wouldn't be moaning and complaining about reviews... maybe they are looking at the problem from the wrong perspective again, and maybe they should advertise other prices, rather than contribute to a monopolised industry which is starting to affect their business. I can get a fly down to Spain for 100 euros, spend 3 hours with a profesional escort, have a nice meal, and come back... all for 400 euros... so you tell me, what are the chances that I get to visit an escort here when I can instead go down to Spain, spend 3 hours with the escort, have a spanish meal, and come back the same day... Monopolised industries are the past, not the future.

[bigpaws]

I'm sorry diver but you're toatlly wrong on this issue ............ escorts who post pics from years ago and falsely advertise services do so because they want to attract as many punters as possible, they are not going to show recent pics if they look terrible in them or be honest that they provide a limited service to lads on here just because HE'S paying money to the website!!
If bad escorts are honest they will get no business and they know it so your plan just wouldn't work ............ the same goes for the girls who don't want to be recognised by family and friends, they are too careful to just throw caution to the wind and completely expose themselves to paying members of this website!
Good escorts are already honest and show genuine pics etc so it would change nothing from their side ...........

Paws

[RicFlair]

I'm afraid the Nature Boy must have his say.

One of the major points of this site is discretion and secrecy. Information is passed on to us. That information comes from escorts who pay to advertise. Therefore let it be, let it be.

If E-I wishes to receive more revenue then I suggest charging the escorts a little more. They charge us plenty.

[diver]

I'm sorry diver but you're toatlly wrong on this issue ............ escorts who post pics from years ago and falsely advertise services do so because they want to attract as many punters as possible, they are not going to show recent pics if they look terrible in them or be honest that they provide a limited service to lads on here just because HE'S paying money to the website!!
If bad escorts are honest they will get no business and they know it so your plan just wouldn't work ............ the same goes for the girls who don't want to be recognised by family and friends, they are too careful to just throw caution to the wind and completely expose themselves to paying members of this website!
Good escorts are already honest and show genuine pics etc so it would change nothing from their side ...........

Paws

I want to get rid of the fakes from the equation as far as I am concerned and would be prepared to pay for this. I would have in mind that "premium" members would get to see these famous photos of the escorts holding a recent newspaper.
The big question is would the escorts agree to let "premium" members see these photos. The reason for the payment of fees by the member is to assure escorts that their nearest and dearest would not be viewing the photos unless they were a fully paid up member which they would be unlikely to admit to.
You may be correct about the attitude of the escorts but I do think that it is worth asking them.
Regards.

[diver]

I'm afraid the Nature Boy must have his say.

One of the major points of this site is discretion and secrecy. Information is passed on to us. That information comes from escorts who pay to advertise. Therefore let it be, let it be.

If E-I wishes to receive more revenue then I suggest charging the escorts a little more. They charge us plenty.

In fairness to Patricia this idea of forming a "premium" membership paying a significant fee was a suggestion put forward by me in a suggestion as to how to cut down on fake reviews and ensure better info and service from the escorts.