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    GERMAN Chancellor Angela Merkel today called for countries who break the rules governing the single currency and threaten the financial security of the eurozone to be prosecuted in court.

    A new ‘stability union’ with stronger fiscal controls and debt regulations was required, she told the German Bundestag.

    Rejecting any ‘quick fix’ ideas she said a new Treaty was needed, but a solution would take years. She also again ruled out the controversial option of Eurobonds.

    Countries which don’t respect the rules should be brought before the European Court and sanctions should be applied, she said.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron were meeting to discuss ongoing euro crisis after a new deal to save the euro took a huge step forward last night.

    Mr Sarkozy said he would meet Mrs Merkel in Paris on Monday to push ahead with joint proposals for a new EU treaty to create a true economic government for the bloc.

    In response, the ECB is expected to make a massive intervention to stabilise the money markets and prevent more countries from having to seek a bailout.

    However, Mr Sarkozy raised fears the proposed changes might pose a threat to Ireland's corporation tax. He said "unfair competition" on tax could not continue.

    The prospect of wide-ranging Treaty changes would require a referendum to be passed. It is firmly opposed by Taoiseach Enda Kenny.

    IBEC director Brendan McGinty said on Morning Ireland that a change to Ireland’s corporation tax was not an option.

    The Government was closely monitoring the speech but said it was "restatement of the French position".

    The French president said changes would involve more and closer economic control, with more qualified majority voting.

    Any changes to the Treaty would be difficult to agree, take several years and would probably require an Irish referendum.

    The ECB will not be part of the formal deal -- so as to preserve its independence.

    However, in his speech, Mr Sarkozy said: "I am convinced that facing the risk of deflation that threatens Europe, the ECB will act. It's up to it to decide when and in what way."

    In what appeared as a coordinated approach, the new president of the ECB, Mario Draghi earlier yesterday hinted at greater action by the bank if governments moved towards a "fiscal compact".

    Mr Draghi did not spell out what action the ECB might take, saying only a commitment by political leaders to stricter budget discipline and binding their economies more closely "is definitely the most important element to start restoring credibility. Other elements might follow, but the sequencing matters".

    And in a newspaper interview, Mrs Merkel also stressed the importance of ECB independence.

    Germany has been opposed to further ECB support but is no expected to soften this position in return for promises of treaty changes.

    Ms Merkel will travel to Paris on Monday to outline joint proposals with Mr Sarkozy for the summit on December 9.

    A deal is seen as make-or-break for the 12-year-old single currency.

    "Europe is no longer a choice. It is a necessity. But the crisis has revealed its weaknesses and its contradictions. Europe must be rethought," Mr Sarkozy said.

    Disaster

    "Let us not hide it, Europe may be swept away by the crisis if it doesn't get a grip, if it doesn't change," Mr Sarkozy said. "We don't have the right to let such a disaster happen."

    A government spokesman said Mr Sarkozy's suggestions of treaty changes and his utterances on tax policy were not new developments.

    "It is a restatement of the French position," a spokesman said.

    EU Council President Herman Van Rompuy will bring forward proposals on a tightening up of rules, including possibly Treaty changes.

    "At the summit, a paper will be brought and we will engage positively," the spokesman said.

    European Affairs Minister Lucinda Creighton said last night that Ireland's corporation tax remained "sacrosanct".
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    Too much info.....remember ive got the attention span of a hamster on exctasy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1dave View Post
    I know both France and Germany have had a problem with Ireland's Corporation tax for quite some time now.

    If it changes, the country will face huge unemployment figures.
    As it is, many multi national companies have left Ireland and opened elsewhere.
    It wont change
    The irish consitution wont allow it without refurndum and the Irish people will vote No no matter how many times we will be asked to vote again
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1dave View Post
    I know both France and Germany have had a problem with Ireland's Corporation tax for quite some time now.

    If it changes, the country will face huge unemployment figures.
    As it is, many multi national companies have left Ireland and opened elsewhere.

    Care to sum up for us dave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeepingTom View Post
    Care to sum up for us dave?
    Ireland habe lowest corperation tax in Europe
    Germany and France want our lowered so they can steal our companies

    We dont want that to happen so they are trying to force us to raise it

    Very bad for Ireland if its raised
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    Look's like the euro crisis is spiraling totally out of the control of the majority of the countries included in it, is it just me that is very suspicious of the increasing control being exerted by the two largest members Germany and France. The smaller economies Ireland included are in a financal way having a gun held to there head and being asked to for in the example of Ireland tax changes that will in no way help the Irish economy but further help to increase the industries in Germany !

    But whatever happens we are all in the shit up to our necks and it keeps getting deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue8671 View Post
    Look's like the euro crisis is spiraling totally out of the control of the majority of the countries included in it, is it just me that is very suspicious of the increasing control being exerted by the two largest members Germany and France. The smaller economies Ireland included are in a financal way having a gun held to there head and being asked to for in the example of Ireland tax changes that will in no way help the Irish economy but further help to increase the industries in Germany !


    But whatever happens we are all in the shit up to our necks and it keeps getting deeper.


    We will either be usuing punts or sterling next year methinks lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    We will either be usuing punts or sterling next year methinks lol
    I can see that happening sooner rather than later, dont know which would be better the punt will require so much to reintroduce making sterling a simpler alternitive but that opens wide the door to the old historical problem of english involvment in Ireland and I cannot see the Irish people going down the road of using sterling no matter how much sense it would make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue8671 View Post
    I can see that happening sooner rather than later, dont know which would be better the punt will require so much to reintroduce making sterling a simpler alternitive but that opens wide the door to the old historical problem of english involvment in Ireland and I cannot see the Irish people going down the road of using sterling no matter how much sense it would make.
    Not to mention its got Lizs mug on it

    No itll be the punt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    We will either be usuing punts or sterling next year methinks lol
    wudnt shock me we have lost of soverity
    at least the english 800years of oppersion was done in the open

    not done sneakly like the bigger bully countries of the eu

    cant wait for turkey to join
    be a bit craic like

    happy that i can speak german anyway lol
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