FFS O2 in Kilkenny

[carlos marvado]

Perhaps your reply is a spot of mischiefmaking in a effort to discredit the warnings I have placed in this section. But considering the other correspondence I got today , I wouldnt expect anything less.

So I take it you have no evidence then that an agency is in fact advertising these three escorts as independents?

My earlier post relates solely to this thread and this warning and relates in no way to any other warnings that you have posted.

Consider the facts that we know to be facts:

1. All 3 escorts are/claim to be Spanish.

2. All 3 escorts are touring in Kilkenny on the same dates.

3. All 3 escorts have the same working hours.

4. All 3 escorts charge the same rates (which look at bit on the low side if an agency has to take it's cut) and work in-call only.

5. All 3 escorts have photos which are verified.

6. All 3 escorts accept reviews and also have 1 or 2 reviews each.

7. The 3 escorts have sequential telephone numbers.

Now, if an agency in Kilkenny were trying to advertise 3 of it's escorts and pass them off as independent's, do you honestly think they would be that stupid not to try and conceal this fact by using different nationalities, that they would be advertising higher rates or have Ask instead, vary the working hours, and finally purchase the sim cards in different shops or at different times so that there would be some variance in the phone numbers?

What is obvious to me is that these 3 girls are touring/travelling together and that they purchased 3 sim cards at one go. You are adding 1 plus 1 and coming up with 3. Why?

[El Gordo]

Considering that your average pimp has an IQ of 7, yes, I would expect them to buy all their sim cards at once and list the same hours and favourites.

[Lucy Chambers]

So I take it you have no evidence then that an agency is in fact advertising these three escorts as independents?

My earlier post relates solely to this thread and this warning and relates in no way to any other warnings that you have posted.

Consider the facts that we know to be facts:

1. All 3 escorts are/claim to be Spanish.

2. All 3 escorts are touring in Kilkenny on the same dates.

3. All 3 escorts have the same working hours.

4. All 3 escorts charge the same rates (which look at bit on the low side if an agency has to take it's cut) and work in-call only.

5. All 3 escorts have photos which are verified.

6. All 3 escorts accept reviews and also have 1 or 2 reviews each.

7. The 3 escorts have sequential telephone numbers.

Now, if an agency in Kilkenny were trying to advertise 3 of it's escorts and pass them off as independent's, do you honestly think they would be that stupid not to try and conceal this fact by using different nationalities, that they would be advertising higher rates or have Ask instead, vary the working hours, and finally purchase the sim cards in different shops or at different times so that there would be some variance in the phone numbers?

What is obvious to me is that these 3 girls are touring/travelling together and that they purchased 3 sim cards at one go. You are adding 1 plus 1 and coming up with 3. Why?

Not trying to argue with the facts, but I will say one thing. Kilkenny is a small town with little to no holiday flats. Private flats are difficult to find. So for three 18 year old ladies to hop on a plane, land in Dubbers and end up as a trio in a town like Kilkenny, where there is indeed only one phone shop, is slightly too providential. However, I agree it could be done. I just doubt it has been done.

[samlad]

Not trying to argue with the facts, but I will say one thing. Kilkenny is a small town with little to no holiday flats. Private flats are difficult to find. So for three 18 year old ladies to hop on a plane, land in Dubbers and end up as a trio in a town like Kilkenny, where there is indeed only one phone shop, is slightly too providential. However, I agree it could be done. I just doubt it has been done.

As I've explained many times before, we have to respect the privacy of escorts and as we are a directory not the Spanish Inquisition, we don't demand details of where escorts stay or reside, so naturally we can't possibly know if escorts share accommodation anyway. If we asked do you think we'd actually get an honest response?

[Lucy Chambers]

As I've explained many times before, we have to respect the privacy of escorts and as we are a directory not the Spanish Inquisition, we don't demand details of where escorts stay or reside, so naturally we can't possibly know if escorts share accommodation anyway. If we asked do you think we'd actually get an honest response?

I think we misunderstand each other. I don't think you can ask anything apart from the location, I was just pointing out a detail of the geography. My thought is that this is all pointless really, the effort should be concentrated on making sure that these covert agancies aren't actually trafficking anyone. After that, as long as they dont start posting odd reviews, who cares?

[ber]

I think we misunderstand each other. I don't think you can ask anything apart from the location, I was just pointing out a detail of the geography. My thought is that this is all pointless really, the effort should be concentrated on making sure that these covert agancies aren't actually trafficking anyone. After that, as long as they dont start posting odd reviews, who cares?

Actually i think the guys who would be visiting them might care alot. There is a big difference between going to see an
independent girl and going to a brothel. This is my real problem with this, many guys visit these brothels without ever
actually realising its a brothel they are visiting not an Independent in an apartment

[Lucy Chambers]

Actually i think the guys who would be visiting them might care alot. There is a big difference between going to see an
independent girl and going to a brothel. This is my real problem with this, many guys visit these brothels without ever
actually realising its a brothel they are visiting not an Independent in an apartment

Here is the conundrum. I realise that too. The problem is that the website cant really police sharing accommodation, which as we know most of the time is agency practice. That's why I am so in favour of the warning threads, they really are the only hope you have of having a clue. The other problem is many genuine indies share for safety nowadays. Its a no win situation. However ladies such as the ones highlighted, with the pics all taken in the same place, sequential numbers and identical profile text do make it much easier to identify.

[ber]

Here is the conundrum. I realise that too. The problem is that the website cant really police sharing accommodation, which as we know most of the time is agency practice. That's why I am so in favour of the warning threads, they really are the only hope you have of having a clue. The other problem is many genuine indies share for safety nowadays. Its a no win situation. However ladies such as the ones highlighted, with the pics all taken in the same place, sequential numbers and identical profile text do make it much easier to identify.

Eventhough technically two independents working together is a brothel in the eyes of the guards (all be it unofficaly ) they
will treat that totally differently to an organised brothel/agency.

[samlad]

I think we misunderstand each other. I don't think you can ask anything apart from the location, I was just pointing out a detail of the geography. My thought is that this is all pointless really, the effort should be concentrated on making sure that these covert agancies aren't actually trafficking anyone. After that, as long as they dont start posting odd reviews, who cares?

Sorry Lucy... that wasn't directed at you! It was just a side point I was making to inform people that we don't actually know where escorts work from, so we can't prove if girls are sharing accommodation. I've just realised I quoted you in my last post!

[Lucy Chambers]

Sorry Lucy... that wasn't directed at you! It was just a side point I was making to inform people that we don't actually know where escorts work from, so we can't prove if girls are sharing accommodation. I've just realised I quoted you in my last post!

S'ok. See, I am so used to being chastised by you I am taking the blame for things automatically