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    Quote Originally Posted by jammydodger View Post
    Yeah I can see where youre coming from there, but there are some only attracted to kids. I also agree on your point of the death penalty for paedos who act on it. But do you think there is a difference between, say, homosexuality, and paedophilia? In terms of its a type of attraction different to the social norm. In some countries today, they are treated the same...
    I think there is a huge difference between homosexuality and paedophilia where this predisposition is acted upon. Homosexual activity involves consenting adults of the same gender, whereas paedophile activity involves the sexual/physical abuse of a minor who probably does not as yet have the mental faculties to give informed consent to what is being done to them. The paedophile may use force or guile to get what they want from a child and to the extent that it is an older person forcing their will on a much younger person who may be in fear, then paedophile activity should be viewed as child rape.

    You are right, there probably are some countries that threat homosexual practices on a par with paedophilia............but then, they probably also stone people for adultry and prostitution and cut off hands for theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    I think there is a huge difference between homosexuality and paedophilia where this predisposition is acted upon. Homosexual activity involves consenting adults of the same gender, whereas paedophile activity involves the sexual/physical abuse of a minor who probably does not as yet have the mental faculties to give informed consent to what is being done to them. The paedophile may use force or guile to get what they want from a child and to the extent that it is an older person forcing their will on a much younger person who may be in fear, then paedophile activity should be viewed as child rape.

    You are right, there probably are some countries that threat homosexual practices on a par with paedophilia............but then, they probably also stone people for adultry and prostitution and cut off hands for theft.

    I completely agree with what you say, and there is no comparison between consensual and non-consensual relationships, whatever the orientation...
    But, for instance, i have a family friend in his 50s who is gay. However, he is deeply religious and has never acted on this. He has been celibate for decades... Im just saying i have sympathy for people who cant lead happy lives due to their orientation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    I think there is a huge difference between homosexuality and paedophilia where this predisposition is acted upon. Homosexual activity involves consenting adults of the same gender, whereas paedophile activity involves the sexual/physical abuse of a minor who probably does not as yet have the mental faculties to give informed consent to what is being done to them. The paedophile may use force or guile to get what they want from a child and to the extent that it is an older person forcing their will on a much younger person who may be in fear, then paedophile activity should be viewed as child rape.

    You are right, there probably are some countries that threat homosexual practices on a par with paedophilia............but then, they probably also stone people for adultry and prostitution and cut off hands for theft.
    I think he meant the attraction , not the act. ie Some poeple cant help who they are attracted too. Take homosexuals, they didnt wake up one morning and decide to be gay, they just were, I think what Jammydodger meant was that some of these peopel didnt choose to be attracted to kids but they are
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    I wouldnt go for the death penality , more along the lines of chemical castration, take the urges away rather than the life away
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    just to say i never said homosexuality and paedophilia are the same thing, just that its a sexual orientation from either birth or drawn from an environment, and that you could draw similarities from people being predisposed to being attracted to others in a way that was outside of the social norm...

    Also i do wanna state that i find any act of child abuse deplorable, and contrary to what might have been suggested in other posts, if you read my other comments, I fully agree with the harshest penalties possible for people who abuse children or possess illegal pornographic material!
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    Paedopholia and homesexuality are two different things. With gay people it's between two consenting adults. With paedophiles it's usually the abuse/rape of a child. Theres only one cure for paedophiles and that's to castrate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighwayman View Post
    Paedopholia and homesexuality are two different things. With gay people it's between two consenting adults. With paedophiles it's usually the abuse/rape of a child. Theres only one cure for paedophiles and that's to castrate them.
    We are not talking about the sexual acts that take place, just the attraction it self, we all agree that paedophilia is one of the most henious acts ever committed but does it stem from a persons sexual orienattaion, like people are straight gay bi etc. This does not make it ok though, but like a straight person feels attracted to a straight perons and gay to a gay, do peadophiles attractaion to children be a part of their genetic make up?
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    I would be dubious if a person was genetically predisposed to be a paedophile. Look at the history of convicted paedophiles, in many cases they suffered abuse themselves.

    Look at how many paedophiles there are in the Church and organisation which just happens to impose sexual abstention on priests and nuns which in most people's opinions (I would imagine) is hugely unnatural.

    If we accept that the attraction to children comes from the genes then a paedophile is no more guilty of a crime than a paranoid schizophrenic who murders someone. I don't think it does but I agree it's something which needs to be talked about more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I wouldnt go for the death penality , more along the lines of chemical castration, take the urges away rather than the life away
    how can castration take away the urge ,the urges are from the brain i'd ,i do agree with the castration but i also agree that a bullet should put straight to there head after words

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga1 View Post
    how can castration take away the urge ,the urges are from the brain i'd ,i do agree with the castration but i also agree that a bullet should put straight to there head after words
    Ok quite simply without the technical lingo, Hormones from the tetsies (testosterone) are secreted throuout the body anda gets into the brain. These hormones fuel the brains lust for sex, ergo castrating would cease any hormones being secreted throughout the body and brain and would quell any sexual urges that the person may have had
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