That Bill is now being Voted on

[blue rebel]

Once she doesn't have loose lips and a dodgy phone?

Well Sarah there would be no problem for a detective to find out where an Escort is working from as all he needs to do is ring make an appointment
and pretend to be a punter and he will have where you are working from in no time at all. My point is if I am with an Escort in a room all alone and
cops come breaking down the door my defence is I am having an affair with this girl , The only way they will have anything on me is if they can prove I am
after paying for sex. This law is only here to stop pimping in my opinion and will have no affect on Independent discreet Escorts.

[blue rebel]

In Ennis recently, when a brothel was busted, they caught a lad mid-fuck, so it does happen.

Im guessing though that they don't have to physically catch you like the lad in Ennis or need your used johnny as evidence, all they need is phone records, prove you were in a certain location at a certain time where they know prostitution exists etc.

Bear in mind, that while you might think you're safe out in a hotel room on your own with just one girl, if there is another girl(s) working somewhere in the same hotel, completely unknown to each other, you're technically in a brothel and you will be done, whether you knew there was other escorts in that hotel or not.

The Magical word you use is Brothel ! If you are in a Hotel room with an Independent girl they will have some job proving you paid for sex.

[Rachel Divine]

Well Sarah there would be no problem for a detective to find out where an Escort is working from as all he needs to do is ring make an appointment
and pretend to be a punter and he will have where you are working from in no time at all. My point is if I am with an Escort in a room all alone and
cops come breaking down the door my defence is I am having an affair with this girl , The only way they will have anything on me is if they can prove I am
after paying for sex. This law is only here to stop pimping in my opinion and will have no affect on Independent discreet Escorts.

Not really, no. Some of us work by reference only, meaning a Guard wouldn't be able to provide that, therefore, he will not get an appointment.

[blue rebel]

Thats my point, they won't have to, you are technically in a brothel if there is just one other girl working somewhere in the same hotel, and there is nearly always a few working girls in the main Cork hotels.

But you are having sex in a hotel room with your girlfriend or your lover !! Let them prove otherwise.

[blue rebel]

I have no doubt in my mind that it is Brothels the cops are watching where they think girls may be trafficked, Don't think
Independent girls have anything to worry about . As a punter I will only see regulars that I know work alone and if a new girl
I fancy is in town will have to be Hotel .

[blue rebel]

Not really, no. Some of us work by reference only, meaning a Guard wouldn't be able to provide that, therefore, he will not get an appointment.

Do you not think that the gardai don't visit the Escorts like the rest of us? Solicitors , Barristers , Judges, and they
would be like most guys on here . This is the oldest profession in the world and it will continue to be as men will always
want sex and Companionship lol.

[td1]

If you are in a Hotel room with an Escort all alone how in the name of Jesus can a Guard or Judge or anyone for that matter
prove that you are paying for sex?? . The only way you are going to get caught with this new law is if you are in a place where there is more
than one girl working that would be known to gardai as that could be considered a brothel. I know at least 3 girls here in Cork who work from
their own private Apt and what happens in your own Apt with another person can be seen as your private life and who can prove otherwise?.

I know 2 ladies who use their own place. But ive asked others here who are reputable but they avoided the question......so they are sharing.

What if you book thrn turn uo. She says "im here alone" place gets busted, 2 girls in other room.....youre fucked ?

[blue rebel]

Are you married Blue Rebel? Have Family? You don't have to answer but if you do, how would it go down when the guards start trying to prove you were with an escort if you deny it?

This following scenario has happened to me but with a foreign escort.

So, say you are caught with Irish Sarah Barra, just the two of you in a hotel room. you say she's your bit on the side, you're meeting up for some extra marital sex. Guards ask you whats your bit on the sides name, you gonna say irishSarahBarra? Guard asks Sarah what her name is, can he see some ID, very quickly he finds out, oh lo amd behold, her name isnt Irish sarah barra. Bit strange you dont know the name of the woman who's your mistress/secret girlfriend. Care to explain that? you can't unless she agrees in advance to tell you her real name.

I got caught that way, before the law obviously, but the story didnt stack up. Lot more at stake now with the law being passed.

Yes I am married and that is why I try and only visit girls in apts on their own , as at the start I was in places where I could here
other Escorts and punters having sex in the room next door so that was highly dangerous if a guard had come busting down the door.
I get what you are saying but I honestly don't think the cops are going to be chasing down girls who they know are not being pimped
or forced into this . I think where there are a few girls in a house like Wilton in Cork recently and Letterkenny that the cops will be clamping down.

[blue rebel]

I know 2 ladies who use their own place. But ive asked others here who are reputable but they avoided the question......so they are sharing.

What if you book thrn turn uo. She says "im here alone" place gets busted, 2 girls in other room.....youre fucked ?

Agree and that is why we will have to be very very careful from now on, Hotel seems the safest bet from now on
or as I said if you know the girl is on her own apt. I honestly know 3 girls in Cork who have their own apt and work
alone and I visit them without ever being afraid of being caught.

[blue rebel]

And I totally get what you're saying and would be thinking the same, but as lovely as alot of escorts are, I don't trust any and experience has taught me not to believe much of what they say.

Ive lost count of the amount of times ive been told "yes honey, im here on my own in my lovely apartament (sic) in city centre" and yet when im there, i hear other girls with clients.

Plus, how do you know what way the coppers distinguish between trafficked and independent girls sharing? As far as they're concerned, maybe 2 or 3 independent Romanians/Czechs/Hungarians touring and sharing are probably "trafficked" and need saving in their eyes.

I think small towns will be hit hard by this law but big Cities like Cork, Dublin will be ok.
Will just have to be very discreet as there are some terrible locations around Cork as well.
I think Hotel would be safest of all but nothing is 100% safe in this world .