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    has his recent arrest really damaged sinn fein?

    my vote would be inclinced to a sinn fein on the pure nd utter basis, there the only ones who seem to even
    realise people in my age group exsit or care about us, the rest seem happy to force us to slave labour doing free work in the likes of tesco stacking shelves and calling it an intern ship,

    cuts to the dole, increase of fees, no creation of real employment, just fobbing numbers with emmigration nd jobsbridge

    every party seems so concerned on helping out the idiots who put us in this mess, nd not looking to help our furture, or give two much of fucks, tbh, its better for them if we emmigrate,

    my generations has been written off, to save bankers,

    and the only ones, who even mention change is sinn fein, im not so naive to believe in election promises now, but the fact the nose is pointing our way, gives me a little hope,

    the amount of my friends who have left, the amount of well trainned nurses getting on planes, while we are actual recruiting nurses form countries where there trainning does not match ours,

    i often feel in my age group im near the last left,

    and why is this happening, coz we are written off, we are not lazy lots want to work, but there plenty with a sense of entitlement, but dont brush us all the same for spoilt ones,

    i fear more for the next generation, at least i got an education, im a very good export with good oppurinties if i wish to take them in oz new zealand, but how many will get educated now

    ireland hit its boom, due in part to it finest resourse its talent its people, well educated well trainned, and now we are exports, nd for some reason our goverement in some sectors recruits elsewhere nd tell us there is no jobs,

    the arrest of gerry adams, to me, will not change my vote, freedom fighter terriost it was a different time, to me why would the most intellgent terriosts in the world, involve the furture leader of there party in things like this, they would never put blood on his hands,

    plus noticing, many of the posters for sinn fein, are of young hopefuls, there one in cork who looks like he made his confirmation

    ff nd fg, are so out of touch with the youth vote, its like an intercounty team ignoring it minors and wondering why in 5 years they no new seniors
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    I don't see why it would damage them. People who might be swayed one way or the other know what happened back in the day, and I think most are smart enough to see that the timing of this arrest was pretty suspicious. I think the party have done very well over recent years, and they'll be getting my vote. Often people cite their economic policies particularly as poorly placed, but as far as I can see the current government just do what they are told by Europe anyway. At least SF would put up a fight. See this happening to Adams?

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    It's a big and very difficult subject Annabel. I grew up in the north when murder from both sides happened almost every day and many currently in politics were directly or indirectly responsible for some of it.

    Having said that, all the major political parties in Ireland have violent pasts, the only difference with Sinn Fein being that of timescale.

    The main question to be asked today is would SF in power be able to genuinely change things for the better. My response would be that they should and almost certainly will be given the chance in the near future. I can remember the optimism that greeted both Tony Blair and Barack Obama when they were first elected. That optimism turned to disillusionment and anger very quickly and I suspect that the SF experience will be similar. But they do deserve their chance if they are voted in.
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    Jean McConville was a young mother. Her only crime in my opinion, was coming from a Protestant background & marrying a Catholic. I don't believe any of that drivel about being a spy for the British security forces.

    My family too, have lost an uncle at the hands of the IRA.

    How anyone can support a political party, with ties to organised crime, murder, bombings of innocents, bank robberies north & south of the border & general racketeering etc,etc, I just don't know!

    The IRA carried out its crime spree, in our name, -against the wishes of 95% of the Irish people. This organisations leaders are now heavily involved in Sein Fein. What's to stop them, if they were given any power, -ignoring the wishes of the majority off he Irish electorate as well. It's very easy to make promises, when you know you are not going to be held accountable (as the opposition never is!). I personally feel, while change is certainly needed, Sein Fein is a move in the wrong direction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieboyo View Post
    Jean McConville was a young mother. Her only crime in my opinion, was coming from a Protestant background & marrying a Catholic. I don't believe any of that drivel about being a spy for the British security forces.

    My family too, have lost an uncle at the hands of the IRA.

    How anyone can support a political party, with ties to organised crime, murder, bombings of innocents, bank robberies north & south of the border & general racketeering etc,etc, I just don't know!

    The IRA carried out its crime spree, in our name, -against the wishes of 95% of the Irish people. This organisations leaders are now heavily involved in Sein Fein. What's to stop them, if they were given any power, -ignoring the wishes of the majority off he Irish electorate as well. It's very easy to make promises, when you know you are not going to be held accountable (as the opposition never is!). I personally feel, while change is certainly needed, Sein Fein is a move in the wrong direction!

    and the british didnt leave mothers of young children dead, her heads so badly shot at they had be identify by her clothing, of course that british army

    lots of pain on both sides, the ira nd british have lots to answer for, but it was a time best put to bed in order to maintain peace,

    or at least get justice for both sides, that case is very sad, but plently very side stories on the catholic side too, my grandfather was a northern catholic, he moved south now but he couldnt get work nd was discrimated for his reiligon,

    but that is the past, building a furture is much more important, for our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabel taylor View Post
    has his recent arrest really damaged sinn fein?

    my vote would be inclinced to a sinn fein on the pure nd utter basis, there the only ones who seem to even
    realise people in my age group exsit or care about us, the rest seem happy to force us to slave labour doing free work in the likes of tesco stacking shelves and calling it an intern ship,

    cuts to the dole, increase of fees, no creation of real employment, just fobbing numbers with emmigration nd jobsbridge

    every party seems so concerned on helping out the idiots who put us in this mess, nd not looking to help our furture, or give two much of fucks, tbh, its better for them if we emmigrate,

    my generations has been written off, to save bankers,

    and the only ones, who even mention change is sinn fein, im not so naive to believe in election promises now, but the fact the nose is pointing our way, gives me a little hope,

    the amount of my friends who have left, the amount of well trainned nurses getting on planes, while we are actual recruiting nurses form countries where there trainning does not match ours,

    i often feel in my age group im near the last left,

    and why is this happening, coz we are written off, we are not lazy lots want to work, but there plenty with a sense of entitlement, but dont brush us all the same for spoilt ones,

    i fear more for the next generation, at least i got an education, im a very good export with good oppurinties if i wish to take them in oz new zealand, but how many will get educated now

    ireland hit its boom, due in part to it finest resourse its talent its people, well educated well trainned, and now we are exports, nd for some reason our goverement in some sectors recruits elsewhere nd tell us there is no jobs,

    the arrest of gerry adams, to me, will not change my vote, freedom fighter terriost it was a different time, to me why would the most intellgent terriosts in the world, involve the furture leader of there party in things like this, they would never put blood on his hands,

    plus noticing, many of the posters for sinn fein, are of young hopefuls, there one in cork who looks like he made his confirmation

    ff nd fg, are so out of touch with the youth vote, its like an intercounty team ignoring it minors and wondering why in 5 years they no new seniors
    Brilliant annabella..you are not from about these parts obviously...An Escort voting for Sin Fein IRA would be like a turkey voting for xmas...Glad to see some sensible people reply..both sides will have a lot to answer for.. In the past now.. Sin Fein in goverment and we will all be emigrating and the Escorts will be first on the boat after they have paid their extortion money and the trafficked girls arrive to pay their dues to the IRA warlords...... lol dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastdude View Post
    Brilliant annabella..you are not from about these parts obviously...An Escort voting for Sin Fein IRA would be like a turkey voting for xmas...Glad to see some sensible people reply..both sides will have a lot to answer for.. In the past now.. Sin Fein in goverment and we will all be emigrating and the Escorts will be first on the boat after they have paid their extortion money and the trafficked girls arrive to pay their dues to the IRA warlords...... lol dude...
    I take your point Clint, and also that of other posters here. The elephant in the room though is that SF are getting votes, particularly from younger people and the main reason is complete disillusionment with FF/FG/Labour. Nothing that can be thrown at SF is going to stop them. The only thing that will work is to put them in govt as junior partners. Witness how that worked for the PDs, The Greens and Labour.
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    one couldn't take sinn fein seriously as a goverment, the only reason they are popular
    is because the other parties are seen to have done such a bad job. chaos under them scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabel taylor View Post
    has his recent arrest really damaged sinn fein?

    my vote would be inclinced to a sinn fein on the pure nd utter basis, there the only ones who seem to even
    realise people in my age group exsit or care about us, the rest seem happy to force us to slave labour doing free work in the likes of tesco stacking shelves and calling it an intern ship,

    cuts to the dole, increase of fees, no creation of real employment, just fobbing numbers with emmigration nd jobsbridge

    every party seems so concerned on helping out the idiots who put us in this mess, nd not looking to help our furture, or give two much of fucks, tbh, its better for them if we emmigrate,

    my generations has been written off, to save bankers,

    and the only ones, who even mention change is sinn fein, im not so naive to believe in election promises now, but the fact the nose is pointing our way, gives me a little hope,

    the amount of my friends who have left, the amount of well trainned nurses getting on planes, while we are actual recruiting nurses form countries where there trainning does not match ours,

    i often feel in my age group im near the last left,

    and why is this happening, coz we are written off, we are not lazy lots want to work, but there plenty with a sense of entitlement, but dont brush us all the same for spoilt ones,

    i fear more for the next generation, at least i got an education, im a very good export with good oppurinties if i wish to take them in oz new zealand, but how many will get educated now

    ireland hit its boom, due in part to it finest resourse its talent its people, well educated well trainned, and now we are exports, nd for some reason our goverement in some sectors recruits elsewhere nd tell us there is no jobs,

    the arrest of gerry adams, to me, will not change my vote, freedom fighter terriost it was a different time, to me why would the most intellgent terriosts in the world, involve the furture leader of there party in things like this, they would never put blood on his hands,

    plus noticing, many of the posters for sinn fein, are of young hopefuls, there one in cork who looks like he made his confirmation

    ff nd fg, are so out of touch with the youth vote, its like an intercounty team ignoring it minors and wondering why in 5 years they no new seniors
    how is a claim like that substantiated? they didn't know gerry was gonna be boss back then? extended time
    in Police custody? they've got something on him.
    Last edited by warmcome; 05-05-14 at 16:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellycurvybabe View Post
    i mind when i hit 18 they sent me a birthday card
    not the kind of calling card they sent to many people !!!!!

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