True Independent Escorts and Agency Escorts

[Curvaceous Kate]

May I ask if you think agencies in Ireland should remain illegal.

I agree with N73 on this one. Agencies should be legalised, but have to conform to regulations that require the Agency to protect their Escorts and charge a reasonable fee for their services. That way the girls working will have to have regular tests, be proven to be working of their own free will and have a chance to earn a comparable wage to Indies after expenses.

If Agencies were legal there would be more competition, as other people would set them up and this alone would make the rates charged to the girls more competitive, as they would seek out the best deal and place for their needs.

[Rachel Divine]

Seems to me are more factors involved when it comes at what means independent escort. Per si if you do not work for an agency and pay own ad, accommodation one it is independent...

I did worked with a very nice Argentinian lady who could not learn English, touring Ireland for around 5 - 7 years yet the language was a - for her. She tried to work a few times on her own, the hassle with phones,accommodation, moving around was to much for her, therefore working for agencies was her preference.

Does that make her a bad escort? I dont think so.
As me, she needed money as well and only because I can manage myself doesnt mean I am better than her.

I see escorts equal , agency, indies , the ladies who have the phone answered by others and so on.
Wish to see less discrimination towards them, thats why this thread, to voice that opinion and hear others as well. What did puzzle me was ladies saying how bad the agency is.
I agree, are good and bad. We all had both experiences in life, but I for one, I did move on.

Comments about agencies been legal and regulated are great.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Seems to me are more factors involved when it comes at what means independent escort. Per si if you do not work for an agency and pay own ad, accommodation one it is independent...

I did worked with a very nice Argentinian lady who could not learn English, touring Ireland for around 5 - 7 years yet the language was a - for her. She tried to work a few times on her own, the hassle with phones,accommodation, moving around was to much for her, therefore working for agencies was her preference.

Does that make her a bad escort? I dont think so.
As me, she needed money as well and only because I can manage myself doesnt mean I am better than her.

I see escorts equal , agency, indies , the ladies who have the phone answered by others and so on.
Wish to see less discrimination towards them, thats why this thread, to voice that opinion and hear others as well. What did puzzle me was ladies saying how bad the agency is.
I agree, are good and bad. We all had both experiences in life, but I for one, I did move on.

Comments about agencies been legal and regulated are great.

Rachel no one person has posted one bad word about Agency girls on this thread. Yes we have had our moans about the Agencies themselves, but NOT the girls. Can you please, please stop making it out like everyone is against you or anyone else who has worked for an Agency or indeed works for one. As long as they are there of their own free will, that is all that matters to anyone here.

I don't know if you are misinterpretting this or doing it to twist things, but it doesn't help your case when trying to seemingly promote Agencies to a place full of Independent Escorts.

[Curvaceous Kate]

I've been asking around some UK forums as to what the norm is for Agencies in the Uk and it would seem that their cut is a third of the takings, so £150 booking would be £100 for the Escort and £50 for the Agency. A good Agency would also arrange professional pictures and advertsing and arrange transport for outcalls.

Bearing this in mind. Are there any English Agency girls in Ireland and if not... well maybe now you know why.

[Morpheus]

Apologies in advance, but reading 17 pages of posts is just impossible!! So I may well be repeating what's already been said.

The term independant escort (or more affectionately - indie) has been bandied about a lot. I don't really care for the term.

All I care about is that the lady concerned is doing this of her own free will. What she does with her money and how she got here is none of my business on the premise that she isn't forced or controlled in any way.

No two escorts have equal footing. If you're from Ireland or across the pond and English is your first language, it's bound to be easier to work entirely independantly. But then again the question of sharing apartments come up, and by law - that will implicate at least one of the two sharing escorts as a brothel keeper!! Which we all know is a load of tosh, but such is the stupid law.

So the term independant to me is defined as whether or not the lady can walk away from this if she so chooses.

I'm not talking about the need for employment - as that governs us all. Many of us would like to leave our jobs but there aren't suitable alternatives. But at the end of the day, if we really wanted to leave, we could. And that is what defines independance to me.

[Rachel Divine]

Rachel no one person has posted one bad word about Agency girls on this thread. Yes we have had our moans about the Agencies themselves, but NOT the girls. Can you please, please stop making it out like everyone is against you or anyone else who has worked for an Agency or indeed works for one. As long as they are there of their own free will, that is all that matters to anyone here.

I don't know if you are misinterpretting this or doing it to twist things, but it doesn't help your case when trying to seemingly promote Agencies to a place full of Independent Escorts.

So, you do not agree with an agency, yet agree with the ladies working for one..?!

I am trying to understand things , it is not about me personal.

What case? Promoting? It is an open thread for registered members to post on it and have a debate over what means independent escort, what about agencies and so on.

And are some complaining about freedom of speech , if it is not to put down someone, some do not speak or start moaning..hmm

[Rachel Divine]

I've been asking around some UK forums as to what the norm is for Agencies in the Uk and it would seem that their cut is a third of the takings, so £150 booking would be £100 for the Escort and £50 for the Agency. A good Agency would also arrange professional pictures and advertsing and arrange transport for outcalls.

Bearing this in mind. Are there any English Agency girls in Ireland and if not... well maybe now you know why.

I always had a taxi at the door when I had an outcall, to pick me and bring me to the apartment.

Why arent English agency girls in Ireland?

[Morpheus]

May I ask if you think agencies in Ireland should remain illegal.

I feel agencies should be legalised but under strict regulation to ensure that the girls working for them aren't coerced or abused.

However, in order for this happen there would have to be complete change to our legislation governing prostitution and we would have to adopt the "legalisation and regulation" model.

I am not really in favour of the "legalisation and regulation" model as it is too onerous from a pratical point of view and I can't see the government actually implenting this (with the track record our government has on Health and Education, I can't see them getting this right either).

I favour the decriminalisation model, but I'm not really sure where agencies will fall fall under that legislation. I suspect they will still be illegal because the decriminalisation model doesn't allow for regulation.

My impression of why agencies work in the U.K. is because they are a significant number of British girls that work for them and therefore stand up for their own rights and maintain an overall standard even for the non-British girls. But I will admit to knowing nothing first hand of U.K. agencies and am willing to be corrected on this.

[Curvaceous Kate]

So, you do not agree with an agency, yet agree with the ladies working for one..?!

I am trying to understand things , it is not about me personal.

What case? Promoting? It is an open thread for registered members to post on it and have a debate over what means independent escort, what about agencies and so on.

And are some complaining about freedom of speech , if it is not to put down someone, some do not speak or start moaning..hmm

The way you have responded to some of the posters who were not in favour of the Agencies was not fair or considerate of my opinion. That is why it looks like you are trying to sell the idea and not just debate it. This is what I am basing my opinion on.

Yes you are right. From what you have said about the Agencies here in Ireland, I am not comfortable with the way they work and what they offer the girls for the money they get for it. I have absolutely no problem with the Agency girls though, apart from feeling sad that they are in a predicament where they feel they have no better alternative to gain work in this industry.

If the Agencies were made legal, then they would have to offer more competitive rates and offer more in return for their money. I would say that the minute Irish and English girls start to use them, then they may have started to get it right, but there is a reason why Irish and English girls don't use them and it's not just about the legal implications, but because they are exploiting people who are not able to work by themselves.

[Curvaceous Kate]

I always had a taxi at the door when I had an outcall, to pick me and bring me to the apartment.

Why arent English agency girls in Ireland?

Because they can make more money back at home of course. They are not being exploited there. A third against half. What would you pick?

Also, I had answered this question in my last post.

I would say that the minute Irish and English girls start to use them, then they may have started to get it right, but there is a reason why Irish and English girls don't use them and it's not just about the legal implications, but because they are exploiting people who are not able to work by themselves.