One final word!

[Naughtynatalie]

regurgitating shite doesnt make it believeable

IIE must be loving all this attention your giving them, next they will be taking over the world..... Mwahahahahahahaha

Ok, now let's get serious...

IIE is under the control of someone calling himself "NinebyThree", not only does he show strong evidence of bipolar type episodes (not that there is anything *wrong* with that, per se, but, uncontrolled, as it seems to be, it indicates significant mental instability) he is also cozying up to Ruhama, "Turn Off the Red Light" and every tabloid journalist he can get next to. If Pat did this there would be an outcry...yet for some stupid reason when NineByThree does this ye all hang off his every word.

All involved are eyewitnesses (if not participants) to the spiteful little playground level games that are openly plotted there before being deleted next day. Either you know darn well that is sad, sick and very unhealthy or there really *ARE* a lot more underage sex workers than I thought...mostly in the catty 9 year old range.

Whatever, it is neither very adult, nor ethical...but I bet you all feel REALLY clever all the same (unless you are just relieved to be part of the bullying gang rather than it's designated target? ).

You are wrong, you are *NOT* being clever at all.

Niner and friends are not good people...good people cannot tolerate the kind of abuse that goes on at IIE let alone encourage or even particpate in it...common sense should tell you that.

Existentialism can be a crippling disability, it prevents you from being able to see important truths like the fact that *if* Ruhama and "Turn Off the Red Light" get their chosen legislation through the Dail there will be opportunities for unscrupulous people to make staggering amounts of money out of selling ways to work around it.

Pat and all at E-I know this, but they are decent people, who also care about the ethical considerations here. Not so IIE and friends. That is why they are doing everything in their power to derail the government consultation in favour of Ruhama and "Turn Off the Red Light", while doing everything in their power to discredit E-I.

Same thing happened before the 1993 law. I am just watching history repeat itself, and some, remarkably similar, VERY stupid women jumping on the bandwagon.

Yes, E-I costs money...but so does generating the kind of site traffic that resolves in guaranteed work for *you* as, and when you want it. You can advertise on the boards for free once a week too.

E-I has been around longer than any other business I can think of in the sex industry because of the incredibly high standard of ethics and confidentiality they have set.

It wouldn't cost me a bother to mail Pat my name, address DOB and credit card number...there is more chance my GP would abuse that information...would any of you DARE to do the same with Niner?

Thought not.

Believe me, if Niner (whoever he, or they, really is) gets his way over the law and consultation process, chances are E-I will effectively pull out of Ireland, you will find it is suddenly almost impossible to work here except through him...and trust me...it will *not* still be free then.

Of course a lot of you will be fine, you just won't tour Ireland any more, but what about the ones who are stuck here? At the mercy of the monster *YOU* chose to enable...

Not you problem are they? And besides, it's such FUN having the kind of infinite permission and opportunity to bully and abuse that Niner offers you.

[UKHeather]

Hey it's Westie
When did you get out luv? x

[Naughtynatalie]

Why dont you show us all the evidence to have to prove your accusations?

So why do Niner and IIE place such a priority on strategies to derail independent sex worker participation in the Department of Justice consultation process and maintain such close ties with "Turn Off the Red Light" and the gutter press?

[Lucy Chambers]

So why do Niner and IIE place such a priority on strategies to derail independent sex worker participation in the Department of Justice consultation process and maintain such close ties with "Turn Off the Red Light" and the gutter press?

Niner is his own person. Since IIE isnt on Twitter, why not ask him why he is so anti EI, or um, yourself for that matter? Im quite sure he will tell you. As to independent sex worker consultation, as he isnt a sex worker how could he derail it? By making claims about EI? Eh?

Oh, but then it *does* sound much more dramatic if you make him sound omnipotent and stuff hey?

[TonyB]

I'm lost. I tried google for Iie, but it seems to be gone?
Why does anyone care what they say?
What difference does it make here?

I get they idea they complain about faults with here that are debated here anyway.
Is this the general idea, or what?

[Naughtynatalie]

Where do you get your facts?

I'm guessing your using the word 'facts' rather lightly

[Patricia]

I don't read IIE.

Since ninebythree left we have had multiple requests from multiple police forces for the info we hold on him. This is due to numerous people making complaints to numerous police forces that he has been threatening or harassing them. I know some of these complaints have been genuine. I also know some of them have been not genuine, in the context that "ninebythree" has become so associated with trouble making, you get trouble makers who are nothing to do with the person who originally used the name "ninebythree" here making threats on sites like twitter and sending text messages signing them "ninebythree", so escorts complain to the police about "ninebythree" but it may not be anything to do with the person who originally used the name ninebythree here.

To me "ninebythree" has become a term synonymous with hurt being caused to escorts, and others, as I note not all the victims are escorts. It's a horrible word and I'm sorry to see a thread about it here.

Why are we talking about this?

[Lucy Chambers]

I don't read IIE.

Since ninebythree left we have had multiple requests from multiple police forces for the info we hold on him. This is due to numerous people making complaints to numerous police forces that he has been threatening or harassing them. I know some of these complaints have been genuine. I also know some of them have been not genuine, in the context that "ninebythree" has become so associated with trouble making, you get trouble makers who are nothing to do with the person who originally used the name "ninebythree" here making threats on sites like twitter and sending text messages signing them "ninebythree", so escorts complain to the police about "ninebythree" but it may not be anything to do with the person who originally used the name ninebythree here.

To me "ninebythree" has become a term synonymous with hurt being caused to escorts, and others, as I note not all the victims are escorts. It's a horrible word and I'm sorry to see a thread about it here.

Why are we talking about this?

I think it was Eileen who brought him up. As most of the escorts who have seen him as a client had and have no problem with him whatsover, I guess perhaps there must be several imposters.

[Patricia]

This is my personal opinion and may not be the same as other E-I staff's opinions obviously.

As for IIE, I looked, I can't get, so I won't comment.

[Patricia]

I think it was Eileen who brought him up. As most of the escorts who have seen him as a client had and have no problem with him whatsover, I guess perhaps there must be several imposters.

I believe it's both. I know of many escorts who have had problem with ninebythree where I believe it is the "real" ninebythree for want of a better term. I also believe there are ninebythree importers. I know of 1 threatener who impersonates ninebythree for sure. I've no doubt there are more. Its a horrible subject because it's so nasty people are afraid to speak about it. Not you obviously Lucy, obviously you've had no issues with ninebythrees real or pretend, but I know many ladies here who have been deeply upset and hurt by the actions of a person calling himself ninebythree. Honestly if there is a real ninebythree out there who is not out to hurt people, change your name would be my advice.