Naivety about STIs

[EnglishAlex]

Yeah well , dont forget all the yummy things you can catch from saliva exchange ( commonly know as French Kissing )

Nobody ever talks about those risks !

You think its only unsafe sex or oral sex that might get you a souvenir ?


Common Cold
Flu
Upper Respiratory Infection
Meningitis
Bacterial meningitis
Mononucleosis
Epstein-Barr virus
Cold sores
Cytomegalovirus
Molluscum contagiosum
Hepatitis B
Chronic Hepatitis B
Polio
Warts
Tooth Decay(Caries)
Chlamydia
Gonnorhea
Syphilis

All transmitted via saliva !

Keep kissing away , but dont beat on the ladies offering OWO/CIM , its a personal choice !

Thanks for your helpful info Lilian.

The list above is scary, don't you think? So may I ask what makes it a good idea in your head to increase these risks massively by sucking uncovered cock and allowing people to come in your mouth? Be honest about the reasons you're offering such risky services. It's all about the money, which is a crying shame. I wish you ladies realised that it is possible to earn without putting yourself at very high risk. Because that's what this boils down to but most ladies who offer it wouldn't admit that. They claim they love the taste of cock instead . Honesty isn't going to happen very often on an open forum which is also used to advertise.

It is a personal choice, you're correct. However, you're very well informed* and I cannot understand how somebody who is seemingly intelligent comes to the conclusion that using a condom for oral isn't a neccessity. I've been there, done that Lilian. My excuse is I was young, naive and didn't really consider all the consequences. I used to offer owo but when I realised that every health professional (such as RodeoMan) couldn't be wrong, I took what they had to say on board, pulled my head from out of my backside and stopped. My business didn't suffer as I thought it would either More people care about their health than is apparent from these boards. Far more.

Personal choices in this business aren't only personal to you, they're personal to every person you spend time with. I prefer the client leaves with only a smile on his face, not a nasty bacterial infection which they then go on to spread around every lady they see. Sharing is def not caring in this instance.

We're never going to agree on this as your business depends on unprotected very high risk services and mine does not. So you'll continually defend your choices. Maybe we'll leave it at that.

* http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...nd_your_health

[bill7]

We take risks in life every day. When we get behind the wheel, we've decided (maybe not consciously) that we're prepared to accept the possibility of being involved in a car crash. Throughout our lives, the likelihood of a single driver being in a car crash is probably close to a certainty. Yet we still drive. We could avoid that car crash by living a different life style and staying away from cars and roads.

Why don't we? Why don't even a small number of us choose to stay away from cars? Because the perceived benefits out-weigh the perceived risks. We want the convenience and the luxury of fast travel, and we're prepared to accept the strong possibility of an accident at some point to have that.

The same applies to many other decisions we make. Do you smoke? If you do, you've weighed the benefits you get from smoking against the strong likelihood of an early death or serious medical problems down the road. Same with eating unhealthily and putting on weight (type 2 diabetes is probably more common in this country than STIs).

Unprotected oral sex is a risk, but so is all forms of sexual contact. You can contract herpes regardless of protection. Does this mean we should all live monogamous life styles, and that this board should shut down? There are many in this country who would love to see that happen.

You weigh the risks. And unprotected oral sex, while it carries is a risk, is a risk that some are prepared to take for the perceived benefits. When it comes to sex, we're all different. The fact that one man might love oral sex while wearing a condom, doesn't mean another man will. What gets one off, doesn't always get another off.

I don't smoke, so the chances are good that I will live longer than those who do. I eat healthily and am not obese, so chances are good that I'll live longer than those who are. I drive, so I might have a car crash (I've had two already), but I'm not giving it up. And I like OWO. I don't see the point of oral with a condom. To be perfectly honest, I'd sooner have a wank. I see the risks, just like I do when I cringe at bad drivers in front of me, but I choose to accept that risk - however small or large it might be. And let's be honest here, that risk is a whole lot smaller than the risks associated with smoking and obesity.

[CoolJay]

Just try and look after yourself lillan.

I seen you about 3 weeks ago and really dont want to have another freak out eppisode so how often do you get checked due to the nature of your services.

[Lilian]

Every week the small check and every month the big one ! Its a law in most EU countries , otherwise a lady is not allowed to work in this job and even gets a fine if caught without a valid check !
I wish that would be the case here too but that are dreams of the future ( I hope ) ...
So no worries CJ

Another episode ?

[Lilian]

To Alex ( quote is to long ) Note : The list I put up is what you can catch from French Kissing !
Yes you are right it is about money , the whole job is about money , so may I put the ball back into your basket and ask why an intelligent and well informed women would offer a risky service , in your case French Kissing ?
Because you love strangers sticking their tong down your throut ? I doubt that !
Its about being competative , hence money !
I never challenge the choices others make , because its not my choice to make in the first place , wether I dont like what they do or would never do it myself !
All the services carry a risk ( broken or sliped off condom , beeing batted over the head by a nasty guy, meeting an escort whos only intention is to rob , literally , the guest of his money and even worse possibilities ), there is no way to stay 100% safe in this job !
So what we decide to do IS a personal choice and that counts for our guests as well , just because I offer certain services I dont force my guests to participate ( unless asked for ) !
As long as the ladies are ok with what they offer who are we to judge them ?
I met girls in this job who vomited after every guest or after practicing a specific service !
Thats really terrible if one does force herself to do things she is mentally not coping with , just for money !
The whole world is full of risky things we decide to do anyway , knowingly !
Smoking , drinking , getting into fights , hell , in some areas of the world taking a stroll can be deadly !
I know its not really the same as STD/STI and I know where you coming from , but it all comes down to make an educated personal choice !
I am not defending my choice cause I dont have to do that for anybody , I am just pointing out the obviouse . not much in this job is riskfree and I decided for me what to do and what not !

[UKHeather]

To Alex ( quote is to long ) Note : The list I put up is what you can catch from French Kissing !
Yes you are right it is about money , the whole job is about money , so may I put the ball back into your basket and ask why an intelligent and well informed women would offer a risky service , in your case French Kissing ?
Because you love strangers sticking their tong down your throut ? I doubt that !
Its about being competative , hence money !
I never challenge the choices others make , because its not my choice to make in the first place , wether I dont like what they do or would never do it myself !
All the services carry a risk ( broken or sliped off condom , beeing batted over the head by a nasty guy, meeting an escort whos only intention is to rob , literally , the guest of his money and even worse possibilities ), there is no way to stay 100% safe in this job !
So what we decide to do IS a personal choice and that counts for our guests as well , just because I offer certain services I dont force my guests to participate ( unless asked for ) !
As long as the ladies are ok with what they offer who are we to judge them ?
I met girls in this job who vomited after every guest or after practicing a specific service !
Thats really terrible if one does force herself to do things she is mentally not coping with , just for money !
The whole world is full of risky things we decide to do anyway , knowingly !
Smoking , drinking , getting into fights , hell , in some areas of the world taking a stroll can be deadly !
I know its not really the same as STD/STI and I know where you coming from , but it all comes down to make an educated personal choice !
I am not defending my choice cause I dont have to do that for anybody , I am just pointing out the obviouse . not much in this job is riskfree and I decided for me what to do and what not !

We are talking about contractable diseases here, some of which are becoming harder to treat. Escorts are having sex with more men than the average woman, therefore, the way I see it, we have a responsibilty to ourselves, the clients and other escorts. If you were a nurse would you treat patients without the necessary precautions such as gloves because that was your choice? That's not an educated choice, it's selfish and irresponsible.

[ThisUserNameIsTaken]

I keep reading this thread title on the main page out of the corner of my eyes as "NATIVITY about STIs". What a Christmas pagent that would be!

[CoolJay]

I wasnt suggesting anything btw lillan.in fact i would like to put it on record as a side not that without question you where the most friendly easy going ladie i have met if anything you talk to much but you know how to put someone at ease and il look forward to meeting you again.

The eppisode i was saying if you look at my thread history i had a huge freak out about HIV.i had four tests done just to reasure me by pvt clinics and doctors and get the all clear.looking back on it now i never had anything to worrie about there never was blood past which i knew and found out really that HIV is extreamly low chance threw norm intercours an oral and with condom on well makes it more or less impossible.

Its a good thing we talk about STI's it really is important.

[Lilian]

I wasnt suggesting anything btw lillan.in fact i would like to put it on record as a side not that without question you where the most friendly easy going ladie i have met if anything you talk to much but you know how to put someone at ease and il look forward to meeting you again.

The eppisode i was saying if you look at my thread history i had a huge freak out about HIV.i had four tests done just to reasure me by pvt clinics and doctors and get the all clear.looking back on it now i never had anything to worrie about there never was blood past which i knew and found out really that HIV is extreamly low chance threw norm intercours an oral and with condom on well makes it more or less impossible.

Its a good thing we talk about STI's it really is important.

Yeah I know , what can I do I like talking and I do it a lot ! I usually make up for that ....

Oh that does sound scary , how long where you in the limbo before you got the results ?

Its VERY good to talk about it and necessary !
I just dont like when fingers are pointed and when people are judged for what they do !

[CoolJay]

Yeah I know , what can I do I like talking and I do it a lot ! I usually make up for that ....

Oh that does sound scary , how long where you in the limbo before you got the results ?

Its VERY good to talk about it and necessary !
I just dont like when fingers are pointed and when people are judged for what they do !

To long detail to get into lets just say it took me four tests and about 7months to get over it.