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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Then again whats the crime rate in these countries?
    is that cause its citizens are hiding under their beds though.
    we might have to redefine crime if we were to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    They are a sovereign nation, and they get to set their own laws. As a visitor to their country, we need to respect their laws.

    That is not to say that I'd agree with their laws, but.

    For comparison : Person comes to Ireland and lets say immolates his wife for adultery. That is an accepted custom in his own country.

    Do you think he should deserve leniency because in his own country he would not be prosecuted (or even persecuted !!),

    or do you think the Law of the Land (Ireland) should apply and he should be up for murder ??
    Agreed.

    It is arrogant to think that a person can commit a crime and then not be subject to the countries laws because they're not a resident or citizen. More, it's plain foolish.

    I HAVE travelled the world over, several times, and visited countries such as this. While a modicum of ignorance can be expected regarding local customs, and offense easily given (not covering your head in a mosque, a female touching a trainee Bhuddist monk, etc.), it is easily avoided by reading the guidebook.

    To commit a crime knowingly and for no good reason (such as survival) is arrogant. To expect consular help because the punishment doesn't fit the crime as it would in your home country is stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue8671 View Post
    Yes and as far as im aware its no secret that this country has the death penilty and thats the reason it was so stupid to get involved in it.
    maybe the drugs stupified him, he was under influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    is that cause its citizens are hiding under their beds though.
    we might have to redefine crime if we were to compare.
    As far as I can see with the exception of cyber crime
    Its the forgeiners who commit most of the crimes there, The UAE has a relitly low crime rate , but uts the likes of the human traffickers or drug smugglers that that are the major criminal offences, that and some terrorist attacks on US tourists

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmcome View Post
    i think there should be uniformity across the globe on human rights etc.
    those type of countries aren't on my map, they are a joke!
    Firstly it's not a perfect world. To make exceptions to a countries justice system for a non-resident weakens the whole justice system of that country, and while it may be imperfect, it tends to suit the culture of the majority.

    On the last part, I completely disagree. Spend some time in these places and you will learn a lot about humanity, and the arrogance we hold ourselves, purely for being westerners.

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    yes but is this justice? being sent to jail after being raped in uae for having sex outside of marraige.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/features...r-being-raped/

    i fully agree you should respect the law of the country you are in/visiting. But the death penalty for a small amount of drugs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by experiencedguy View Post
    Firstly it's not a perfect world. To make exceptions to a countries justice system for a non-resident weakens the whole justice system of that country, and while it may be imperfect, it tends to suit the culture of the majority.

    On the last part, I completely disagree. Spend some time in these places and you will learn a lot about humanity, and the arrogance we hold ourselves, purely for being westerners.
    I have spent some time in Dubai. I think that the problem, as Dubai isnt actually a true representation of UAE, and can seem on the surface quite liberal place, it creates a false sense of being at home. People assume as they can drink there, they can probably get away with other things there. It seems an unlikely juxtaposition, Sharia law and the new Benidorm of the Middle East

    I should expect there will be some type of commutation of sentence though. There usually seems to be at the eleventh hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanthaAngelManchester View Post
    yes but is this justice? being sent to jail after being raped in uae for having sex outside of marraige.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/features...r-being-raped/

    i fully agree you should respect the law of the country you are in/visiting. But the death penalty for a small amount of drugs!

    Now thats fucked up (and a bit Irish at the same time)

    Although comming from a website called faith freedom I wouldnt pay too much heed to any evidence given
    Last edited by Doozer; 27-06-12 at 10:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanthaAngelManchester View Post
    yes but is this justice? being sent to jail after being raped in uae for having sex outside of marraige.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/features...r-being-raped/

    i fully agree you should respect the law of the country you are in/visiting. But the death penalty for a small amount of drugs!
    Hey, that reminds me. Check this Saudi chick out. She has some gumption.

    Last edited by lucy chambers; 27-06-12 at 10:27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanthaAngelManchester View Post
    yes but is this justice? being sent to jail after being raped in uae for having sex outside of marraige.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/features...r-being-raped/

    i fully agree you should respect the law of the country you are in/visiting. But the death penalty for a small amount of drugs!
    Unfortunately Justice and Law do not always go hand in hand. There are many tragic stories of miscarriage of justice , done either

    willfully or by neglect. In most if not all countries you will find harrowing tales.

    I cannot even imagine the horrors that that woman must have suffered. Certainly a cautionary tale.
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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