Cim danger?

[mature abby]

Ha, wouldn't it be wonderful if say, Ruhama instead of trying to come after us, did a nationwide STI awareness campaign !!!

A campaign that would reach all age groups !!

Shockingly, back home there was a sharp increase of HIV cases a few years ago, in Nursing Home patients !!

Of all people !! Yep, old ones are still sexually active (especially with Viagra), and they knew nothing of STDs !!

personally I prefer to minimize the risks , an not rely on others ,
In regards to my other posts if 4 people in one household can contract an std its more common than people choose to believe x

[ISO HAWNY]

So cover up xxx

do escorts carry covers for their clients who like french kissing ?

[Curvaceous Kate]

My sister is married and a couple of years ago she told me she had chlamydia and had been faithful, so it could have only been given her through her husband. She wants children and so far has not been able to have any (she is a lot younger than me). She is still with him, but the relationship is crumbling. He smokes weed and when he goes out drinking, he always drinks too much. They don't have a lot of money, so I doubt that he went with an Escort, it is morely to have been a drunken night out.

It is these scenarios that are more likely to result in an STI, because they are often done on impulse, without protection and even if with protection accidents happen and when you are fueled with drink or merry on pot, then you are less likely to check and make sure. You are less likely to know the person you are with, or have their phone number or ever see them again. At least most clients have a contact number and for the ladies that are on the forum, they can make contact here too.

What am I trying to say? Two different people with two very different lifestyles. My sister who is monogomous and me... well obviously not. She has had an STI that could leave her childless and I haven't. The difference is that she didn't believe she had cause for concern, why would she? It could have been with her a long time before she discovered it, where as I do get checked regularly and more if needed. I agree that I am taking risks, but the risks are measured and contained.

If and when the medical profession can no longer keep the STI's mentioned under control, then I will change my behaviour accordingly and of course if a client wants to take extra precautions then I respect their opinion and will of course comply.

I'm also going to invest in a bumper roll of cling film!

[Lucy Chambers]

I am surmising that people -- even college kids -- are not so stupid as to engage in bareback while sober.

Chlamydia that Abby mentioned is not easily transnitted via owo. The same Chlamydia that is an epidemic. It is spread by bareback.



My feet are firmly on the ground, and am smiling .

I posted on this thread in an objective manner, simply outlining the danger/level of risk and treatability etc.

I posted my opinion, and as I said, each to their own.

Then you are naive, go and check out the sites where it is openly offered. Chlamydia is one of around 15 diseases. I wouldn't call your posts on the subject objective, not after you said you offer those services with virtually no risk due to your Hep B and HPV jabs. I would call it misleading. Gonnorea is also an epidemic, and survives well in the throat. Anyone who claims to offer those services with no risk is telling fibs. CIM is amongst the most dangerous sexual practices, and that's a documented fact.

[Uisce Beatha]

Then you are naive, go and check out the sites where it is openly offered. Chlamydia is one of around 15 diseases. I wouldn't call your posts on the subject objective, not after you said you offer those services with virtually no risk due to your Hep B and HPV jabs. I would call it misleading. Gonnorea is also an epidemic, and survives well in the throat. Anyone who claims to offer those services with no risk is telling fibs. CIM is amongst the most dangerous sexual practices, and that's a documented fact.

Thanks for your candour in this thread; you have convinced me that I have a clear choice to make between continuing a lifestyle that puts me and others at risk or stepping back from it altogether. There can be no half measures, no ambiguity, no gamble taken. It takes courage for an escort to be as frank as you have been on a topic such as this as it is hardly conducive to business, so thanks for truly opening my eyes to the actual, empirical, verifiable risks involved.

[UKHeather]

I notice on these types of boards,posters celebrate individual decisions and choices. the difficulty with this approach when it comes to individuals choosing a level of risk in sti matters, is that the consequences of those choices are not restricted to the individual decision makers. by the very nature of punting, there will be a knock -on effect on others who may not be prepared to accept the same level of risk. !

As a sex worker I am in a position where I have to be responsible not only for myself, but for every client who visits me and therefore every person he has sex with afterwards.. including other escorts.
Tis a pity some people just don't give a shit what they are passing around...and for goodness knows what reason, choose to be a link in the chain.

[UKHeather]

My sister is married and a couple of years ago she told me she had chlamydia and had been faithful, so it could have only been given her through her husband. She wants children and so far has not been able to have any (she is a lot younger than me). She is still with him, but the relationship is crumbling. He smokes weed and when he goes out drinking, he always drinks too much. They don't have a lot of money, so I doubt that he went with an Escort, it is morely to have been a drunken night out.

It is these scenarios that are more likely to result in an STI, because they are often done on impulse, without protection and even if with protection accidents happen and when you are fueled with drink or merry on pot, then you are less likely to check and make sure. You are less likely to know the person you are with, or have their phone number or ever see them again. At least most clients have a contact number and for the ladies that are on the forum, they can make contact here too.

What am I trying to say? Two different people with two very different lifestyles. My sister who is monogomous and me... well obviously not. She has had an STI that could leave her childless and I haven't. The difference is that she didn't believe she had cause for concern, why would she? It could have been with her a long time before she discovered it, where as I do get checked regularly and more if needed. I agree that I am taking risks, but the risks are measured and contained.

If and when the medical profession can no longer keep the STI's mentioned under control, then I will change my behaviour accordingly and of course if a client wants to take extra precautions then I respect their opinion and will of course comply.

I'm also going to invest in a bumper roll of cling film!

Here's a scenario and a question for you.
Two men have an identical STI. Both receive unprotected oral from women. One woman is a sex worker, the other is a casual partner met on a drunken night out. The women are both tested regularly.
Which lady is more likely to contract the STI in her throat?

[kingbee]

the expression : 'turkeys voting for Xmas ' come to mind when I read this thread

If i was a newbie I wouldnt go near an escort after all this -perhaps that is the natural evolutionary way where viruses/bacteria intervene to PROMOTE a return to monogamy lol

[UKHeather]

Im guessing both ladies

Precisely my point. In this basic context it's rubbish to suggest that an identical unprotected activity is safer with an escort than it is with anyone else.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Here's a scenario and a question for you.
Two men have an identical STI. Both receive unprotected oral from women. One woman is a sex worker, the other is a casual partner met on a drunken night out. The women are both tested regularly.
Which lady is more likely to contract the STI in her throat?

Why is it the one time I actually bother to look up information and statistics my computer freezes on me and I can't get it back?

There really is very little difference between the two ladies other than money changing hands, although the lady having a casual partner may be having unprotected penetrative sex if she feels she is with someone she can trust (which would be foolish), so I'm not really seeing the significance of the question.

I will try and compile the information I had sought before my laptop crashed on me and continue to make my point.

I currently do the majority of my work in the South West in the UK, so I have been compiling some statistics to see what the percentages are for STI's in my age group, as it has been documented that 2/3rd of STIs are generally reported within the 16 to 24 age group, of which I do not come under.

In 2007 the female population of the South West was appoximately 7691 from 16 years +

Within the 35 to 44 age group in 2009 there were noted to be 139 cases of Chlamydia and 27 cases of Gonorrhaea, just 2 cases of syphillis, 1944 cases of herpes & 2813 cases of genital warts.

The percentage of women therefore translates as...

1.8% of women had Chlaymydia
0.35% of women had Gonarrhaea
0.03% of women had Syphillis
25% of women had herpes
36% of women had genital warts

The information was gained from the following sources and is approximate due to using the year 2007 for population and 2009 for STI information. Please bear in mind that the population had increased over the 2 years, so actually the statistics would be lower, not higher and therefore the percentages are slightly higher than the reality.

Population information - http://www.swo.org.uk/EasysiteWeb/ge...icetype=Inline

http://www.swo.org.uk/sotsw2012/population-migration/

Regional STI informaion for the UK in 2009 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UE&hl=en#gid=1

Information reference the increase in STI's for 15 to 24 age bracket in the UK http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...ity-statistics

I actually found it surprising that so many women were getting Herpes and genital warts, as I would have thought these were the easiest to spot and certainly something that I am very mindful of when with a client. I imagine it is mostly due to ignorance, perhaps intoxication or the impulse of the moment that women are still falling foul of these STI's, which most Escorts would be only to aware of and looking to avoid. I have myself on a few occassions pointed out areas that did not look healthy, apologised and explained why I would not be able to do owo or in some cases continue with the booking. I have also on several occassions advised clients to go to a clinic and helped them with where to find one and what to do.

The more important of the two being chlamydia and gonorrhaea have come out extremely low, with gonorrhaea being less than 1% and chlamydia just less than 2%. This is a whole cross section of society and in amongst them will be Escorts like myself.

I'm not trying to white wash anything, as the only way it would be safe is to come back with 0% which I have not, but when you look at the statistics here, the threat is not nearly to the scale that some would have you believe.

I will continue to look and see if I can find more up to date information, but judging by some of the posts on here, I would have expected the statistics to show a much higher percentage of STI's amongst the women.

As has been said before. Nothing is 100% safe, even condoms are told to be over 90% in one report and closer to 82% safe in another, that means there is also a 10 to 18% possibilty of an STI with condoms. If you feel happier using a condom for oral or using a dental dam then use them. It's as simple as that and the Escort has to work within her own boundaries, but you can not blame the Escort for offering OWO or CIM if you get it, because she did not force you to do this with her. I don't know an Escort who would refuse to use protection if asked.

These are the findings I found when looking for relevant information to myself and where I work. They have not been compiled to try and white wash what I do or make light of a serious situation. We are all interested in this subject, it does not matter which view point that we come from and I for one do not take my health or anyone elses lightly.