discriminating escorts

[Skeletor]

I'm glad I'm not alone then. I don't see people in wheelchair. Most of them had difficulty to accept it, which adds to the reasons I don't see them.
I'm glad there are escorts who can stomach it just as I once was able to. It's just not worth it to be making this job even more complicated for yourself.
Luckily we have the little tickbox in the escorts profiles, that makes it obvious wether the escort does or doesnt see disabled clients, so I would guess this thread isn't neccesary?

this is my first time logging in since I started this thread lastnite I am shocked at your attitude but moreso the ignorance of your post, how u wish to label people with disabilities paint them all with the same brush, people can acquire a disability through accident or ill health too so I hope that never happens u because not only will u not be able to accept it but society will not be able to accept u..disabled people have tried throughout the years to gain a more equal and inclusive society for themselves and have come such a long way with independent living in the community and much improved access Thanks be to God your attitude is very much in the minority
I've no doubt John Rambo can confirm all that I have stated here with respect to disabled people now living in an inclusive society

[Julius Caesar]

this is my first time logging in since I started this thread lastnite I am shocked at your attitude but moreso the ignorance of your post, how u wish to label people with disabilities paint them all with the same brush, people can acquire a disability through accident or ill health too so I hope that never happens u because not only will u not be able to accept it but society will not be able to accept u..disabled people have tried throughout the years to gain a more equal and inclusive society for themselves and have come such a long way with independent living in the community and much improved access Thanks be to God your attitude is very much in the minority
I've no doubt John Rambo can confirm all that I have stated here with respect to disabled people now living in an inclusive society

Hey bro I think your being a bit harsh I'm not disabled so I can't say how they would feel about her statement but it's her choice and if she finds it difficult it's up to her cos as we all know escouts have a hard enough time as it is with a lot of clients. I'm not saying she's right and I'm not standing up for her either but sometimes you can post something and it can be taken up wrong.

[Curvaceous Kate]

I will admit that when I have advertised on here, I have clicked on the 'do not see disabled' button. This is purely because I'm working in a place with very limited resources and I don't know the area very well. I can't give advice and I don't know if I'm going to be in a disabled friendly environment. However, back in England with my own apartment I know what I have at my disposal, so I can be more flexible.

I'm not trying to defend anyone here, but please also consider, that many disabled people have qualified carers, who know how to look after their needs and how to respond to them respectfully and without embarrasment. Of course if the disability is low key and easy for them to manage it is not a problem, but this is not always the case, so I think rather than saying 'I'm disabled' it is better to say what the disability is and how it might impact on the booking and allow the Escort to decide if this is something she is comfortable with.

With regards to discretion, this is also a valid reason. I have met one young chap a few times at his own place and it was fine, although his hygiene was not that great, as he had problems cleaning himself. I did ask him to clean again, but he again didn't do a good job, so I used a wet wipe. That I can cope with, but when he came to mine on one occasion, he parked his car erratically in the private car parking area, so I had to ask him to park it again and he had mobility problems and I was 2 flights up, with no lift. Needless to say it did not go unnoticed by the neighbours.

He was actually a lovely young chap, who was unfortunate and had suffered a heart attack and I didn't want to stop seeing him, but I had to say that I couldn't see him at mine again.

With reference to your introduction Skeletor, I personally would not take a booking third hand from anybody. I would have asked you to get him to ring me himself, because communication is vital and if your friend was not able to communicate with me, how do I know he will understand me if I have to ask him to stop doing something?

I'm afraid nothing is black and white with regards to disability. I know some ladies that Escort who have been nurses in a previous life and they may feel more confident with some disabilities that I wouldn't, but in some cases it is also a matter of considering the safety of the disabled person as well, so not always that they just can't be bothered or think it's not nice etc.

[El Gordo]

I do think that this is a pretty pointless statement. People generally give others a bad name. Most of us here are behind a keyboard and able enough to type and pass comment regardless of a disability are we not?

I don't think it's a pointless statement. I was alluding to particular cases a couple of years back. If an escort remembers those and doesn't have the phone numbers of the individuals involved then she might wonder if the person calling her is one of them, and decide not to take the risk.

[Sexy_Jessica]

I hope for your sake nothing ever happens to you or someone in your family that would result in you or them becoming disabled in some way as you sound as if you really couldn’t “stomach” them.

totally agree, to be disabled can happen to anyone, had some small carcrashes in the pastens, just stupid aquaplaning, though i will die or end on the wheelchair, My car just turned on the road a few times, but nothing happened to me (was my fault as i love to drive fast), before i buyed my apartment, i looked also on such things like if this has an disabled acces for the wheelchair persons, if lift is big enough to entry with wheelchair etc. It sounds maybe paranoid from me, but you never know what can happend to you.
Respect yourself and eachother, every girl has the right to decided to see who she wants, but dont´s insult them or hate them we all are human.

[Curvaceous Kate]

totally agree, to be disabled can happen to anyone, had some small carcrashes in the pastens, just stupid aquaplaning, though i will die or end on the wheelchair, My car just turned on the road a few times, but nothing happened to me (was my fault as i love to drive fast), before i buyed my apartment, i looked also on such things like if this has an disabled acces for the wheelchair persons, if lift is big enough to entry with wheelchair etc. It sounds maybe paranoid from me, but you never know what can happend to you.
Respect yourself and eachother, every girl has the right to decided to see who she wants,but dont´s insult them or hate them we all are human.

I totally agree with this Jessica and you wrote an excellent post.

[Anna23]

Apologies if I added to the generalision the OP made. It was nt meant as an insult. I just tried to show that even escorts can take only so much.
I have nothing extra against people in wheelchair compared to what I feel against all other people. I just don't want to have sex with them unless I find the particular person attractive. So I have made a decision not to escort people in wheelchair.
For the vast majority of clients it is of paramount importance, that I am ok doing what I do with them. Unfortunately the reactions of this minority has proven the opposite. They would rather if I forced meself into servicing them regardless of my feelings, because that is the right thing to do.
Well, dear ones, this is sex we are selling here and I dont want to end up disgruntled like some DCG, so I wont be forcing myself into having it with anyone, even if I'm getting paid for it.
I'm not the one being judgemental here. Maybe you'd see more honesty around here if you could try to be at least bit more openminded.

[Banjaxed]

It's ridiculous to suggest that someone should be compelled to do something they're not comfortable with. Naturally I was the first to mention the Equal Status Act (which applies to discrimination in the sale of goods and services), but quite frankly I find some of it quite draconian and anathema to common sense. Even if as Eileen went onto mention, if full scale legalisation and regulation occurred, we're talking about human beings here, and they must have some choice in who they get intimate with, even if they're doing it for money.

[experiencedguy]

I'm not the one being judgemental here. Maybe you'd see more honesty around here if you could try to be at least bit more openminded.

Agreed. People make judgements all the time. Take the assumption that you were a lesser person for not seeing disabled clients. Would those clients go to see a traveler woman, even a disabled escort? Would they make the same assumption about themselves just because of a lack of attraction?

Then, if we follow that train of thought and expect an escort to see everybody that rings them..... well, there's another name for that kind of escort and it usually involves a third party who's making money off their back.

In short, it's a service industry, and you can be refused service. Get over it, go somewhere else, and check the profiles.

FYI, I have disabled friends and nearly ended up that way myself.

[MatureEbonyPru38F]

Actually, there are wheelchair users who are quite fit - http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lhamill is a case in point. Very dishy. I would. NOTE: He was not born disabled. And that is the situation with many men I have met. Illness, a car crash, an accident at work. Everything changed in a flash. The need to suddenly make your 3 bedroom semi accessible. And discover all over again how to date, how to make love.

But on a serious note, don't give escorts a hard time over our right to see or refuse a client, as long as she makes her final decision with grace and good manners. Be thankful if a lady says she doesn't want to see you, she hasn't just said, sure, come on over, I'll astral travel while you're with me and distance myself from the experience because only the money is important to me. The same with escorts that won't see clients from certain ethnic backgrounds, etc.

Every one that says no to you has spared you an experience even more negative than rejection over the phone.

Wheelchair access isn't just about lifts and stairs either. I know the apartment I shall be using in Maynooth is reasonably wheel chair friendly and one of the rooms more so than the other. But the bathroom is standard and I don't travel with a urinal pot, so if a client in a wheel chair wants to use the bathroom where I stay, this will be a challenge. Some men in wheel chairs will avoid drinking in the run up to a booking or date, to avoid the mortification of needing a hand to take a piss ... or more.

Even some of the best hotels only have a limited number of rooms with accessible bathrooms and wet rooms. The apartment I shall be at in Dublin, again, I have no idea what the facilities will be like. I am just grateful to have a place to see clients where I won't be at the mercy of some hotel management objecting to my presence. The last complication most ladies need for an eventuality that may not happen is insisting on accessible only accomodation. It would severly limit our choices in an already hostile working place.

And these disabled friendly rooms in hotels are not as lush as rooms for standard use. But the odds on having a client that will book and have special needs are so low that why would I want to opt for the not so lush room on the off-chance that I'll get a client that needs those facilities. I don't think I've ever had a disabled client book me while I was on tour in Ireland and I've visited quite a few times. So if I suddenly had a guy ring up and say, I'm in a wheel chair, can you see me, would he start ranting if I said I can't see him, even though my profile is probably ticked to say yes, I would?

I used to request disabled friendly rooms when touring in hotels, but then realised that the rooms really were more functional than aesthetic and not to my personal liking. And no one ever came that needed them, so I sat it out for nothing, explaining to non disabled clients why the room was the way it was.

There are as many disabilities as stars in the sky. Aspergers clients? Some are quirky darlings? Some are intensely brooding and rude, causing offence every time they open their mouths, while oblivious of the impact of what they say. Cerebral palsy? One of my regulars once bit down quite hard on my nipple by accident while suckling. That frigging hurt. I still tense up a little during foreplay with him, because I'm afraid it might happen again. Thankfully, he cares enough to not want to hurt and does his best. But would a guy booking me for a one off treat care if his poor co-ordination might hurt me?

Does he swallow? With some disabilities, a client may present with little or no control over the swallow function, resulting in a tendency to drool as saliva gathers, that the average person unconsciously swallows automatically. Yet some guys with this condition are obsessed with DFK (Deep French Kissing), and often the first a lady knows is when he's trying to thrust his tongue down her throat and wetting her face into the bargain. I personally do not like excessive bodily fluids. But I can be assertive enough with a client to say, no, I'm not doing that. Some ladies might feel like the world's worst bitch if they had to say "no" to anything a disabled guy asked for.

So, you have well meaning ladies who don't want to be hurt by accident, don't trust that the environment they work in is comfortable enough, don't trust themselves to have the "stomach" to deal with certain spontaneous physical actions, or are not sure they would be understood or be able to understand. If you expect a woman with a poor grasp of English to feel she can communicate with someone with speech difficulties, when she can barely communicate with the guy who hasn't, what does that say about you?

There are many reasons that a lady may so no to any kind of client. I believe it is a lady's right to tick not to see disabled clients. I believe that anyone with a disability or phoning on behalf of someone with a disability and approaching a lady who had not indicated that she provides this level of service is simply spoiling for a fight and frankly, a rebel without a cause. The one lady you find unattractive or unappealing, may be the one lady equipped physically, mentally and emotionally to see a man with any disability.

On the hygeine issue, I give the guys that are bed ridden or in a wheel chair a bed bath. But that is no excuse to turn up filthy. Every lady appreciates the effort. Scratch the area with your finger (if you can) and sniff it (if you can). If you do and it does not either smell neutral, or of fresh soap, then that bodily odour smell is going to be extremely offensive to another party. This is as true of disabled men as it is of able men. Just that those with little or no social experience underestimate the role of the sense of smell for arousal or disgust. They're focusing on the visual or kinesthetic.

No one can force an escort, who receives no consesional support from government or any authorities, to take on a client with special needs if those needs are going to impact her bottom line. No Body exists to subsidise her for tagging on an extra 15 minutes to a half hour booking so the guy who is normally dressed by his carer can struggle to take his own clothes off or put them back on at the end of the booking. Or to slip on her jeans and take off her make up so she can go down-stairs to the lobby to assist the guy who didn't have the courtesy to tell her over the phone that he has special needs.

Best advice, if you have special needs, make your first approach by email or pm to the lady. Don't just say that you are disabled. Give us some credit and state in a couple of sentences how your disability changes the landscape, so to speak. Men with premature ejaculation or anorgasmia use the TLC web site because they consider themselves disabled. But that's too wide a blanket. Disability could be Tourettes, Duchennes Muscular Dystrophy, Spina Bifida, Cerebal Palsy, the wearing of a catheter (forgotten the name for this permanent pouch), drooling or blindness. Each is different and has different needs and implications. And a lady deserves, without any pressure, social or political, to say, yes, the resources I have available to me are enought to give me the option to fuck your brains out should you wish. And you may be related to, best friends with, or a carer to a disabled person. But until you have to fuck them, you cannot understand that it is not always as easy as dropping one's knickers.

xxx

Pru