Secret diary of a Dublin call girl

[milkman]

If men are capable of raping children or raping women or deliberately inflicting pain on a living entity purely for their own pleasure,then its easy imagine scumfxcks throwing money on the floor just to degrade an escort.
Unfortunately in this cruel world ,there are sociopaths who simply haven't an ounce of empathy for the feelings or emotions of others and the sex industry is a particular industry where such loathing towards others manifests itself.

Whats even worse is that the criminal justice system itself is very misogynist at its core as is reflected by the derisory custodial sentences that regularly feature in the courts.

[ksteve]

If men are capable of raping children or raping women or deliberately inflicting pain on a living entity purely for their own pleasure,then its easy imagine scumfxcks throwing money on the floor just to degrade an escort.
Unfortunately in this cruel world ,there are sociopaths who simply haven't an ounce of empathy for the feelings or emotions of others and the sex industry is a particular industry where such loathing towards others manifests itself.

Whats even worse is that the criminal justice system itself is very misogynist at its core as is reflected by the derisory custodial sentences that regularly feature in the courts.

Yes I have no doubt that this is the case and you can see from articles and posts in the media.what damage these people do to the reputation of clients in general. (Personally, I get rightly p****d off at laws which regulate all of our livesand yet are really only introduced because of the actions of a minority.)

From the bit of reading I have carried out in the media in the last few days, I think we have to ask ourselves the following question as clients;

Even if the escort offers a wide range of services on her profile ( including questionable ones ), does that mean that it is right for us to automatically choose from all of these services,even though we might question whether the lady is truly offering them because of market pressures, rather than because she is reasonably happy to offer them ?

Take for example the particularly thorny issue of CIM. As clients we have been put on notice that some escorts offer this service, not because they are comfortable with it ( STI issues etc ) but because they feel they will not financially survive as escorts if they dont. So, armed with this knowledge we choose an escort who offers CIM , is there a responsibility on us , at the booking to make it clear that we would have no problem at all if she would prefer to withddraw that service ?

I ask this because I would really question how many ladies are actually comfortable with this service. If we profess to care for and respect the escort, what reason would we have for not asking the question ?

[milkman]

To be honest, during an appointment ,i'd always suggest to an escort that 'i'd like......if you're comfortable with that " . I don't ask anything that would not be in the escort's profile so at least i'd know that i'm not suggesting out of the ordinary.

Personally, i always like to confirm my position of subordination asap to the escort just to make sure that she's comfortable in my presence.After all,it must cross an escort's mind(if only fleeting) about the veracity and sincerity of each client that enters the room.
I think ,as a client, that if you make every reasonable attempt asap to show that you're a mannerly, respectful and friendly client,invariably the appointment ends up being a lot more fun.

[ksteve]

The problem is that the blogs are getting excessive air time/advertising through certain vehicles and will in the main make an impact on the men that do respect women, while making the ones that don't more indignant

I think you may be right on this Kate. If you tell people that you think little of them, then it is more likely that you will get less and less good from them.

[Banjaxed]

I appreciate that there is also the fact that things have changed drastically in the last 5 years alone, with reference to the recession and the male behaviour. If anything it is a lot worse now than it was 5 years ago and there are more pitfalls and problems to dodge in order to do well. I still worry that sending out messages like that will pull out the men that try their best to be 'nice', 'normal' and treat ladies like 'equals' and make them question what they are doing. Despite the fact that they might be in loveless situations, not had a hug in years, or just single and not want to muck people about. The men that geniunely don't care (which do exist) are not going to be touched by what she writes. They will remain.

I would urge men if they really care and want to see someone who geniunely wants to work as an Escort to spend time researching and that does not mean relying on reviews. Read her adverts through, read her blogs if she writes them, post her a message or give her a call and if it all adds up, then make your choice. I know of men that do research well in advance and have 2 or 3 girls that they would like to see, so when that uncontrollable urge comes along, there is no picking someone out of the bag and God knows what you might find, but a possibility that one of the ladies they have pre-selected is available and she is likely to be who she says she is and working because she wants to.

When a lady had retired it's very easy to reflect on thoughts and feelings, because they are behind you. However, if the thoughts have an impact on other people's present it can be damaging. Already someone has said that they want no part of the review system and using women so he is out. I bet he was a lovely guy as well. I doubt he would throw 50 euros on the floor and ask what extra services are on offer (which I think is disgusting by the way and he would have been asked to pick it up and leave if he had done that to me). Please don't leave us with all the dick heads!

This is actually a very good point, though I'm aware the posts is quiet far back in the thread. I only discovered this particular blog tonight, linked from a person who works with the TOTBL group and, as someone who has not yet taken the plunge into booking an escort, it began to make me have second thoughts about the whole idea of meeting an escort.

While it seems to be harsh, bitter, and from a biased perspective, the views and experiences of that person must be respected. I have no doubt that there are horrible punters among those who use escorts, as with any area which would be regarded as on the margins of society. I've always believed in respecting others so I can safely say that I would not be one to prey on the vulnerable or to engage an escort who wasn't really up for it. There is no reason why an encounter, even one based on the payment of money for the meeting of a desire, can't be beneficial to both parties.

As Kate rightly points out, such blogs only produced negativity and guilt in those who actually do respect escorts in the first place. Those who do not will be indignant with the individual but they will still view escorts as objects and are incredibly unlikely to change their behaviour.

[James2012]

If you don’t mind I would like to comment on this thread. I have never posted here before and, ended up here after following from Boards to the DCC blog.
I must admit when I first read the DCC blog a part of me died inside at the thought that I may have contributed to any human being feeling that badly about themselves. The blogger is a damaged and wounded person, a human being.
I would have real and genuine concerns for this lady I hope that she can pull back and get some perspective on the values she has as a human being. I find the lack of compassion unless they agree with our opinions appalling, as demonstrated by some posters in this thread. The disgusting individuals she refers to in the blog,frankly shame every Irish man, not just themselves and the parents that raised them.

In my opinion I believe the Irish sex industry’s lack of status combined with the prevailing shameful attitude we have to those who work in the sex industry in Ireland contributed to this feeling of low self-worth the blogger feels.

However experience has thought me it cannot be left by the state to abdicate its responsibility to those who need help or want to leave the industry to religiously motivate NGO’s such as Ruhama, who reek of moral indignation against “users of prostitutes” rather that compassion to those affected by the sex industry in a negative way.

I have no right nor do I claim to have the moral ground here, I am not seeking absolution, forgiveness, or understanding or paint myself as “good punter” and, it is likely I will never post again.

I had been ok with paid companionship as a personal choice I make between two consenting adults taking every step possible t
o avoid dealing with trafficked or forced prostitution. Combined with doing all I can to threat the women with respect and sometimes being had because of it, but rather that than the alternative. But now I have to reflect on this and the experiences I had not in Ireland but UK and Germany.
But I have to balance the book by saying that my life was once literally saved by the kindness of a strangers touch but I hope it did not come at the cost it has to the blogger.

Thanks
James

[ksteve]

If you don’t mind I would like to comment on this thread. I have never posted here before and, ended up here after following from Boards to the DCC blog.
I must admit when I first read the DCC blog a part of me died inside at the thought that I may have contributed to any human being feeling that badly about themselves. The blogger is a damaged and wounded person, a human being.
I would have real and genuine concerns for this lady I hope that she can pull back and get some perspective on the values she has as a human being. I find the lack of compassion unless they agree with our opinions appalling, as demonstrated by some posters in this thread. The disgusting individuals she refers to in the blog,frankly shame every Irish man, not just themselves and the parents that raised them.

In my opinion I believe the Irish sex industry’s lack of status combined with the prevailing shameful attitude we have to those who work in the sex industry in Ireland contributed to this feeling of low self-worth the blogger feels.

However experience has thought me it cannot be left by the state to abdicate its responsibility to those who need help or want to leave the industry to religiously motivate NGO’s such as Ruhama, who reek of moral indignation against “users of prostitutes” rather that compassion to those affected by the sex industry in a negative way.

I have no right nor do I claim to have the moral ground here, I am not seeking absolution, forgiveness, or understanding or paint myself as “good punter” and, it is likely I will never post again.

I had been ok with paid companionship as a personal choice I make between two consenting adults taking every step possible t
o avoid dealing with trafficked or forced prostitution. Combined with doing all I can to threat the women with respect and sometimes being had because of it, but rather that than the alternative. But now I have to reflect on this and the experiences I had not in Ireland but UK and Germany.
But I have to balance the book by saying that my life was once literally saved by the kindness of a strangers touch but I hope it did not come at the cost it has to the blogger.

Thanks
James

Interesting post James and welcome .

Few questions;

1. Do you feel guilty personally in any way for what those disgusting people did to DCG ?

2. Have you concluded your reflections and if not what are the main factors you are weighing up ?

3. You referred to influential experiences in the UK and Germany. Do you feel able to share these ?

[Gigolo Dublin]

I love being a gigolo No one forcing me to this. I just love it. I adore women. I was born this way If I stop loving, I quit.