.....EXorcism....

[Apollo1]

My dear Apollo,

You seem to miss the significant difference between Spontaneous Genesis and Spontaneous Generation.

Please read up on it and then get back to me, or else we'll give Doozer a whammer of a headache..

(Also, I did find your initial response to my post lecturing and dismissive. Hence such an elaborate response from me. Please read up. )


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Apologies Stephanie it was in no way my intention to sound lecturing or dismissive perhaps i didnt read it properly but from my interpretation of what your saying is that the basic concept for spontaneous genesis and spontaneous regeneration of life are pretty much the same concept in that they are both dealing with life forming from non living matter...as u said particles/elements etc make up life so the two only really deal with the same thing but in different forms..

[Stephanie]

My head hurts now
Did the swan neck experiment account for extreamlphiles?

Panspermia seems to be the likly occurence for the emergence of amino acids on earth which is important for life

Good one Doozer, I had to look this up. Yeay

Extremophiles

"Extremophiles are microbes that live in conditions that would kill other creatures. It was not until the 1970's that such creatures were recognized, but the more researchers look, the more they discover that most archaea, some bacteria and a few protists can survive in the harshest and strangest of environments. "

I think we just got lucky and no such creatures reared their heads in Pasteur's Swan-neck.. or else the whole theory might have

been discarded and the ramifications of that would be incomprehensible in light of what we hold to be (practically) true

nowadays re contamination and infection etc...

But on Panspermia, Doozer, I disagree. I think you are mixing it up with Spontaneous Genesis.. :

Panspermia Theory suggests that life seeds came from outer space and planets exchanged life.

Panspermia literally means seeds everywhere..

How's the headache lol

[Doozer]

Taking neurofen now so getting better
Correct me if I am wrong Steph but from what I have read the theory is that meteors with ice and mineras and some biologicl enties crashed to earth and inteatced with some earthly chemical componds (Usualy the sea chimneys spewing more minerals from the eaths crust )and life evolved from there. I could be wrong

Yea the extremophiles are changing our views on platenry life being able to exist outside the habital zones

[Stephanie]

Apologies Stephanie it was in no way my intention to sound lecturing or dismissive perhaps i didnt read it properly but from my interpretation of what your saying is that the basic concept for spontaneous genesis and spontaneous regeneration of life are pretty much the same concept in that they are both dealing with life forming from non living matter...as u said particles/elements etc make up life so the two only really deal with the same thing but in different forms..

Oh, Apollo, there is a HUGE difference between S. Genesis and S. Generation (btw it is NOT S. REgeneration, simply Generation)

S. Genesis holds that on Earth at one time such conditions existed that it allowed for the impromptu, spontaneous creation of the

basic building blocks of life, namely amino acids, which is the most basic and elementary part of proteins..

On the other hand S. Generation claimed (has been long ago disproven), that COMPLEX, whole living organisms

(mouse from grain, maggots from meat) can come into existence.. Do you not see the difference ?

Now I am getting a headache lol

[Doozer]

Oh, Apollo, there is a HUGE difference between S. Genesis and S. Generation (btw it is NOT S. REgeneration, simply Generation)

S. Genesis holds that on Earth at one time such conditions existed that it allowed for the impromptu, spontaneous creation of the

basic building blocks of life, namely amino acids, which is the most basic and elementary part of proteins..

On the other hand S. Generation claimed (has been long ago disproven), that COMPLEX, whole living organisms

(mouse from grain, maggots from meat) can come into existence.. Do you not see the difference ?

Now I am getting a headache lol

Err the first one

[Stephanie]

Taking neurofen now so getting better
Correct me if I am wrong Steph but from what I have read the theory is that meteors with ice and mineras and some biologicl enties crashed to earth and inteatced with some earthly chemical componds (Usualy the sea chimneys spewing more minerals from the eaths crust )and life evolved from there. I could be wrong

Yea the extremophiles are changing our views on platenry life being able to exist outside the habital zones

True, most recently there seem to be more proof emerging that on other planets not so far from us some form of basic life

forms did/does possibly exist.. I am not familiar with most recent data, but am sceptical about such organisms being able to

survive 'arriving' on the Blue Planet.. Based on my current knowledge, I believe we managed to evolve just from what was here

on Earth..

Excedrin please !!

[Doozer]

True, most recently there seem to be more proof emerging that on other planets not so far from us some form of basic life

forms did/does possibly exist.. I am not familiar with most recent data, but am sceptical about such organisms being able to

survive 'arriving' on the Blue Planet.. Based on my current knowledge, I believe we managed to evolve just from what was here

on Earth..

Excedrin please !!

Well there in fact could be life in our own solar sytstem.
Jupiters ice moon Iwo? is belived to have vast oceans underneath its icy crust and with Jupiters gravataional pull it is being pulled in different directions and through this friction is believed to have heated the moon enough for life to exist, Obviously not photsyntheic life but thermalsytheic life, Much like some of the life that does exist in our oceans abysses.

Again its only a theroy but one that cant be disproved till we send a probe to investigate. Which is on NASAs to do list (if they start space exploration again. If not the European space agency will have to do it

[TomEA]

True, most recently there seem to be more proof emerging that on other planets not so far from us some form of basic life

forms did/does possibly exist.. I am not familiar with most recent data, but am sceptical about such organisms being able to

survive 'arriving' on the Blue Planet.. Based on my current knowledge, I believe we managed to evolve just from what was here

on Earth..

Excedrin please !!

Correct me if im wrong here but i remember a while ago hearing something about something being found on mars that could prove that there was once water on mars, wether that had of been underneath the crust i have no idea.

I have no idea how life came about, but i am a true believer that there is life out there somewhere else. The probablity is too high that, the universe is soo big that there is no way it can be just us, and why just our planet?

[Doozer]

Correct me if im wrong here but i remember a while ago hearing something about something being found on mars that could prove that there was once water on mars, wether that had of been underneath the crust i have no idea.

I have no idea how life came about, but i am a true believer that there is life out there somewhere else. The probablity is too high that, the universe is soo big that there is no way it can be just us, and why just our planet?

New find was sugar under rhe rusty dust floor of mars which meant water was at one point present

[Stephanie]

Correct me if im wrong here but i remember a while ago hearing something about something being found on mars that could prove that there was once water on mars, wether that had of been underneath the crust i have no idea.

I have no idea how life came about, but i am a true believer that there is life out there somewhere else. The probablity is too high that, the universe is soo big that there is no way it can be just us, and why just our planet?

You are not wrong, and I agree. The probability is such.