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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    where did the helium come from? Did it just puff into existence from nothing ?

    Im taking about a period before anything existed
    Pre time itself
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    Observation of deuterium gives an additional support of the big bang nucleosynthesis. Deuterium, unlike helium, is not produced in stars at all. At temperatures above about one million degrees K, it dissociates into proton and neutron. Astronomers in the early 1970s realized that no known process in the present universe could have produced deuterium. This is because any deuterium created in stars will immediately dissociate or convert to helium due to the high temperatures in interiors of stars. However, in 1973, studies of absorption spectra of nearby stars showed that interstellar medium (material between stars) contains a trace of deuterium. Since stars could not have produced the deuterium, it must have been created either very early in the formation of the galaxy or even before. Despite the high temperature at the beginning, the big bang nucleosynthesis could create deuterium because the expansion of the universe lowered the density and temperature so quickly that there was hardly time for the deuterium to decay.

    Thus, the abundance of helium and existence of deuterium provide strong evidence that the universe began with a hot, violent explosion consistent with the big bang model.
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    As regards my thought that Wallace came up with the idea of Natural Selection first I apologise to Darwin for this haha...still should have known it...i guess technically they both came up with the idea..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Im feeling like you should be paying me for this Nothing is nothing visible or material, but it doesnt mean it isnt there.

    I would have to read up on it. If you really want to know, I shall.
    all I'm saying is before anything exists, how can something be created without the raw materials
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    your still taking about matter. Im talking pre matter.
    I am well versed in the universe formation
    I'm talking about pre formation
    No one could know that. Im still happier with the explanations offered by science than the ones offered by priests though. I think perhaps theology was born of these issues, was it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    all I'm saying is before anything exists, how can something be created without the raw materials
    Alchemy The raw materials are essentially nothing in their natural form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Dr Takashi is yer man

    Observation of deuterium gives an additional support of the big bang nucleosynthesis. Deuterium, unlike helium, is not produced in stars at all. At temperatures above about one million degrees K, it dissociates into proton and neutron. Astronomers in the early 1970s realized that no known process in the present universe could have produced deuterium. This is because any deuterium created in stars will immediately dissociate or convert to helium due to the high temperatures in interiors of stars. However, in 1973, studies of absorption spectra of nearby stars showed that interstellar medium (material between stars) contains a trace of deuterium. Since stars could not have produced the deuterium, it must have been created either very early in the formation of the galaxy or even before. Despite the high temperature at the beginning, the big bang nucleosynthesis could create deuterium because the expansion of the universe lowered the density and temperature so quickly that there was hardly time for the deuterium to decay.

    Thus, the abundance of helium and existence of deuterium provide strong evidence that the universe began with a hot, violent explosion consistent with the big bang model.
    again you are taking about the big bang but not explaining how the materials came into being before the big bang. There was no heat or anything in this peroid
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    No one could know that. Im still happier with the explanations offered by science than the ones offered by priests though. I think perhaps theology was born of these issues, was it not?
    that's my point exactly so people have faith that there is a scientific explanation , which we havent discovered yet. Which is the same faith that those who believe in god have
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Alchemy The raw materials are essentially nothing in their natural form.
    i think we are going around in circles here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    i think we are going around in circles here
    I think so too. I don't think an explanation can be found. But I will try
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    The thing is no one was around, well no human was around before the big bang so we will never know what was there unless some sort of time travel was created lol..but could that mean that a human was around back then rendering what i said in the previous sentence a load of horseshit..hmmmm

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