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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Devils advocate here, and Gaylord is always on moderating in the gay section?
    And John is disabled moderating the disabled clients forum. I don't punt, but moderate an escort forum. I don't think that impedes my work on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Sam these are not the opinions of random people without a vested interested in this community, these are the opinions of members who have been around a while, we have seen the fights the good times and the bad times. To simply dismiss that there is no validity in the opinions proffered here is slightly belittling. I as a non-member of the management put forth a possible solution to what really isn't a problem at all, if it were handled with compassion and reason you wouldn't be having these lengthy discussion about the effectiveness of the management. There is an US vs THEM mentality, and until that is over come, the management will forever having to put out these needless little brush fires.
    And I appreciate your comments. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Please refer to my last post in this thread: https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...sh-people.html
    Since you're referring everyone to that post, and since I can't reply on that thread, I'd just like to say something here. In that post you refer to one of my posts, which was of the "I understand what you're saying, but..." variety. Now you only mention the "I understand what you're saying" part of it, and leave out the "but..." part. It's accurate in so far as it goes. The "I understand what you're saying" part wasn't just a rhetorical device. I really do understand. However, leaving out the "but..." part leaves the impression that I think the rule and decision are correct, which I don't. So would you mind removing the reference to me from that post? I think it gives people the wrong impression of what I was saying, even though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.

    Some of the mods do speak Irish fluently, however as we have to react quickly to certain issues and the Irish speaking mods cannot always be on all the time, it would make things impossible to moderate sufficiently.
    I don't really think that section would really require constant attention. Just someone to pop in once a month and dust off the cobwebs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Please refer to my last post in this thread: https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...sh-people.html

    Some of the mods do speak Irish fluently, however as we have to react quickly to certain issues and the Irish speaking mods cannot always be on all the time, it would make things impossible to moderate sufficiently.
    That is a cop out Sam. I have read your final comment on Dolly's thread and you put forward a reasoned argument, but this country's mother tongue is Irish and if a few people wish to converse, and try to re-ignite the use of Irish in daily life, they should be allowed to do so. Setting up an Irish speaking section for those people that can speak and write fluently in Irish should not be a big challenge for E-I and moderating it wouldn't break the bank either.
    I don't expect there to be a proliferation of Irish speaking on the forums even if the rule was removed. I am not a fluent Irish speaker and I am a bit embarrassed by that fact, so I would enjoy reading threads in an Irish section(with an English translation), to help me get back some of the knowledge I learned all those years ago in school.
    I know there have been great improvements on E-I over the past 3-4 years, because management listened to some of the ideas put forward by members. This is just another opportunity to listen to the people that help fund the site.

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    compromise is the key here its no failure on the parts of mods if you gotta change a rule people dont wanna be spoken to like children now that I have spoken I trust threads will be unlocked Go raibh maith agat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest View Post
    That is a cop out Sam. I have read your final comment on Dolly's thread and you put forward a reasoned argument, but this country's mother tongue is Irish and if a few people wish to converse, and try to re-ignite the use of Irish in daily life, they should be allowed to do so. Setting up an Irish speaking section for those people that can speak and write fluently in Irish should not be a big challenge for E-I and moderating it wouldn't break the bank either.
    I don't expect there to be a proliferation of Irish speaking on the forums even if the rule was removed. I am not a fluent Irish speaker and I am a bit embarrassed by that fact, so I would enjoy reading threads in an Irish section(with an English translation), to help me get back some of the knowledge I learned all those years ago in school.
    I know there have been great improvements on E-I over the past 3-4 years, because management listened to some of the ideas put forward by members. This is just another opportunity to listen to the people that help fund the site.
    Sorry you feel that way Forrest. I can assure you though that we do take on board ideas, but just because we don't find them feasible enough to implement, it doesn't mean that we haven't listened and considered them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gordo View Post
    Since you're referring everyone to that post, and since I can't reply on that thread, I'd just like to say something here. In that post you refer to one of my posts, which was of the "I understand what you're saying, but..." variety. Now you only mention the "I understand what you're saying" part of it, and leave out the "but..." part. It's accurate in so far as it goes. The "I understand what you're saying" part wasn't just a rhetorical device. I really do understand. However, leaving out the "but..." part leaves the impression that I think the rule and decision are correct, which I don't. So would you mind removing the reference to me from that post? I think it gives people the wrong impression of what I was saying, even though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.


    I don't really think that section would really require constant attention. Just someone to pop in once a month and dust off the cobwebs.
    LOL! I don't use language as a means of rhetoric with the perceived cliche of 'I understand what you're saying'. The thing is, I do understand where you are coming from; I am not one dimensionally minded, El Gordo, and do consider things from a range of perspectives. I can genuinely see the points you are making in all their clarity, but I do have to counter the idea if there is reason for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Sorry you feel that way Forrest. I can assure you though that we do take on board ideas, but just because we don't find them feasible enough to implement, it doesn't mean that we haven't listened and considered them.
    I do realise that some ideas are taken on board, as I have already mentioned that some of the improvements on E-I have come from suggestions/requests from the members. I doubt if E-I is in any great financial difficulty that a part-time Gaelgoir moderator couldn't be easily funded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest View Post
    I do realise that some ideas are taken on board, as I have already mentioned that some of the improvements on E-I have come from suggestions/requests from the members. I doubt if E-I is in any great financial difficulty that a part-time Gaelgoir moderator couldn't be easily funded.
    Some of the mods already do speak Irish. It's just a case of sticking to a universal tongue so that everyone can contribute at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Sorry you feel that way Forrest.
    No you aren't.

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    I can assure you though that we do take on board ideas
    No you don't.

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    but just because we don't find them feasible enough to implement, it doesn't mean that we haven't listened and considered them.
    Yes it does.

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    LOL! I don't use language as a means of rhetoric with the perceived cliche of 'I understand what you're saying'.
    Yes you do.

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    The thing is, I do understand where you are coming from
    No you don't.

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    I am not one dimensionally minded
    Yes you are.

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    and do consider things from a range of perspectives.
    No you don't.

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    I can genuinely see the points you are making in all their clarity
    No you can't.


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    but I do have to counter the idea if there is reason for it
    No you don't.






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