Fuck Irish sovereignty !

[Rockman]

Is this not a democratic society ? Well it doesn't feel like one !!! We voted against Lisbon and were told to vote again. We are in the shite financially due to bad leadership but holding our own. Then Myrtle opens her big mouth and our bond crises worsens. Now Ireland is being bullied into taking this bailout from the UK and Germany and on there terms. No dowth they will drive a hard bargen and we will be paying for this for generations.

[El Gordo]

Is this not a democratic society ? Well it doesn't feel like one !!! We voted against Lisbon and were told to vote again. We are in the shite financially due to bad leadership but holding our own. Then Myrtle opens her big mouth and our bond crises worsens. Now Ireland is being bullied into taking this bailout from the UK and Germany and on there terms. No dowth they will drive a hard bargen and we will be paying for this for generations.

This is something I hear a lot. But think about. We are begging for a handout. Our glorious leader won't admit that, of course. But we are asking for charity. You don't negotiate while begging. Not if you expect to get anything.

[anitasizzle]

I think we tried capitalism it didn't work, the rich get richer the poor get poorer, the banks fuck it all up. I think we should give communism a go. I am not saying fascism, communism is different it might work.

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There once was a 'long-winded' Irish man, Bernard Shaw, who proposed 'Industrial Socialism', maybe now people will take notice

[rover]

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There once was a 'long-winded' Irish man, Bernard Shaw, who proposed 'Industrial Socialism', maybe now people will take notice

In the UK the working man is inclined to shoot himself in the foot when he votes. At least over here the less well off don't vote Fianna Fail.

[Sam Spade]

We fucked it up folks.

If it wasnt the government it was the clergy.

We blew our chances.

Let us be governed by Berlin or London or wherever because you can be damn sure they wont make such a complete ballsup of it like we have ourselves.


......whos round is it, anyone got a light ?

The Irish Government are playing a long game.

Yes they are in crises and yes they do need money to shore up the Banks.
Do they say so - of course not.
Will they receive the finance - of course they will

The Government knows the importance of their government, especially after Greece.

Will the Irish Government fail - of course not.
The Euro region is too important for a small region/country o fail!
It is not in the greater good!.

Your comments please

[Sam Spade]

Is this not a democratic society ? Well it doesn't feel like one !!! We voted against Lisbon and were told to vote again. We are in the shite financially due to bad leadership but holding our own. Then Myrtle opens her big mouth and our bond crises worsens. Now Ireland is being bullied into taking this bailout from the UK and Germany and on there terms. No dowth they will drive a hard bargen and we will be paying for this for generations.

Respect, well said!

[ChiefHandker]

The Irish Government are playing a long game.

Yes they are in crises and yes they do need money to shore up the Banks.
Do they say so - of course not.
Will they receive the finance - of course they will

The Government knows the importance of their government, especially after Greece.

Will the Irish Government fail - of course not.
The Euro region is too important for a small region/country o fail!
It is not in the greater good!.

Your comments please

Yep I think you're completely right.
They will take the money of course.
Just because we're inviting the IMF on our doorstep doesn't mean it's all doom and gloom. As much as I hate to admit it, that tw@ Michael O'Leary made a pretty good point of how Britain needed the IMF in ..1976 (i think) So it isn't all bad, it's just a necessity sometimes. All we can do is wait and see.
Sceptics point to the situation with the IMF and Brazil and how they were far better off without them.. Err yeah but it coincided with the discovery of a wealth of natural resources in that country.

Anyways yeah I agree with you.. now whose got a boat so we can go looking for oil?

[dr love]

The Irish Government are playing a long game.

Yes they are in crises and yes they do need money to shore up the Banks.
Do they say so - of course not.
Will they receive the finance - of course they will

The Government knows the importance of their government, especially after Greece.

Will the Irish Government fail - of course not.
The Euro region is too important for a small region/country o fail!
It is not in the greater good!.

Your comments please

i hear ya i hope we dont lose a generation over this.; doc;

[corkpunter]

The Irish Government are playing a long game.

Yes they are in crises and yes they do need money to shore up the Banks.
Do they say so - of course not.
Will they receive the finance - of course they will

The Government knows the importance of their government, especially after Greece.

Will the Irish Government fail - of course not.
The Euro region is too important for a small region/country o fail!
It is not in the greater good!.

Your comments please

The Irish goverment has failed a long time ago. They don't know how big trouble the Irish banks are in, they have made no measures to stop this, they have to get outside help to actually find out how much trouble this country is in. They have been lying about the troubles the country is in, ofcourse they have failed, it is not even up for debate. Only thing up for debate is how badly they have failed.
The amounts being bandied around for the bailout is between 100bn and 140bn euro. At around 5% interest rate. It looks great for the future, never mind paying this off, just having to pay off the interest will cripple the country.

[Irish Fiona]

I actually have a (wee) bit of respect for Biffo and the lads trying to keep the wolf from the door!! He is not an ignorant man!! We are an ignorant nation only cop-ing on!! OMG British rule is yet again at our doorsteps!! Why??? Ignorance as usual!!!!
We as a nation have all a part to play....... stop criticizing and join in with a more positive way of support to our government and country please!!!!

We are in the now