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Thread: Should Unverified Escort Profiles Have Pictures Attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gordo View Post
    You still seem not to be getting what I am saying. Ad Staff make mistakes. Both the ladies I'm talking about sent verification photos to E-I. For whatever reason Ad Staff listed them as not verified, even though the profile pics were theirs. If E-I adopted your no unverified pics rule then there would never be a way to correct such mistakes.
    The verification system is not the best but they have to work with whats there . If i was an escort advertising , i would make damn sure that my pictures were verified rather that have no pictures on a profile. I understand what you saying about correcting the mistakes but why should any escort need a punter verify her pictures, unless there was a issue with their verification picture . What about that hundreds of other escorts that verify the pictures without the help from a punter. You are basing your objection on a very small percentage .

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    Quote Originally Posted by An don View Post
    The verification system is not the best but they have to work with whats there . If i was an escort advertising , i would make damn sure that my pictures were verified rather that have no pictures on a profile. I understand what you saying about correcting the mistakes but why should any escort need a punter verify her pictures, unless there was a issue with their verification picture . What about that hundreds of other escorts that verify the pictures without the help from a punter. You are basing your objection on a very small percentage .
    Am I basing my objection on a small percentage? Maybe, but probably not. I would guess the number of ladies who have had problems with their verification pics at some point is fairly large, but we tend not to notice, because they often get sorted within a few days. I just noticed those two because I happened to see them during those few days when there was a problem. But it will be much harder to sort out such problems in the future if there are no pics up to compare to the escort. I definitely don't agree with your point that escorts shouldn't need punters to verify their pics. That is the only meaningful form of verification. Who am I going to believe, someone who has actually had an appointment with the lady or someone sitting in an office in another country looking at a picture sent by someone they've never met and never will meet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParisB View Post
    I think that those escorts that are unverified or using stolen picture wherever they are from be it a escort or a porn star should not be allowed to have pictures on there profile
    Without verified pictures they will probably see a drop in there business is if they are using

    Its NOT fair to all those genuine escorts who do have verified pictures AND they are the escort in question to be put in the same box as those escort who arent verified and are using fake photos ect

    one thing that might work is different level/ratings of verification ie

    level 1 Gold Definalty the girl in the picture - this could be done possibly from the reviews buy adding a option on the review for
    defiantly the girl in the picture
    not sure but similar
    definatly not the girl
    it could go across the top of the escort profile


    level 2 silver verified by photo sent to escort ireland which is what is done now

    level 3 bronze verified but suspect as far as ad staff ect are sure (buyer beware)

    dont know if this would work
    Good ideas Paris , but i should think it matters as the thread is here four days now and still no feed back from staff here . No doubt it be in soap next.

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    I believe escorts which have had posted fake pictures, should have all their pictures removed until verified.

    However, if there is a new or established escort,which there are many.
    They should have their pictures displayed for a predefined period to allow the verified process to be completed.
    If we do not allow unverified pictures until verified, this may disadvantage the up and coming escorts, irish-escorts and punters alike.
    If one escort fakes, this surly should not harm the genuine escorts who may be awaiting verification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParisB View Post
    I think that those escorts that are unverified or using stolen picture wherever they are from be it a escort or a porn star should not be allowed to have pictures on there profile
    Without verified pictures they will probably see a drop in there business is if they are using

    Its NOT fair to all those genuine escorts who do have verified pictures AND they are the escort in question to be put in the same box as those escort who arent verified and are using fake photos ect

    one thing that might work is different level/ratings of verification ie

    level 1 Gold Definalty the girl in the picture - this could be done possibly from the reviews buy adding a option on the review for
    defiantly the girl in the picture
    not sure but similar
    definatly not the girl
    it could go across the top of the escort profile


    level 2 silver verified by photo sent to escort ireland which is what is done now

    level 3 bronze verified but suspect as far as ad staff ect are sure (buyer beware)

    dont know if this would work
    Pictures which are definitely not the escort shouldn't be there. And it's already E-I policy to remove those. Not that it always happens, but it's already the policy. The question really is what to do with photos which Ad Staff isn't sure about. At the moment those are marked unverified until Ad Staff get more information. An don wants to remove them, and most people seem to agree with him, but I think he and they haven't really thought this through. Remember, we aren't discussing fake pics here. Everyone agrees those should be removed. We are discussing pics which may well be genuine. And we will never find out whether they are genuine if they are removed from profiles, because the only people who could confirm that they are genuine, reviewers, won't be able to see them.
    Last edited by El Gordo; 06-11-10 at 23:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gordo View Post
    An don wants to remove them, and most people seem to agree with him, but I think he and they haven't really thought this through. Remember, we aren't discussing fake pics here. Everyone agrees those should be removed. We are discussing pics which may well be genuine. And we will never find out whether they are genuine if they are removed from profiles, because the only people who could confirm that they are genuine, reviewers, won't be able to see them.
    I have thought it through and if the pics are genuine the escort will do all in her power to verify them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An don View Post
    I have thought it through and if the pics are genuine the escort will do all in her power to verify them.
    Like what? How is the escort supposed to prove those pictures are her? There are no E-I staff anywhere in Ireland. How exactly do you think E-I are supposed to know whose pictures those are? E-I photo verification is not reliable. It never has been. It never will be. That's not E-I's fault, really, it's just the way things are. But you can't make people's ability to work depend on it.

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    “All right,” said the Cat; and this time it vanished quite slowly, beginning with the end of the tail, and ending with the grin, which remained some time after the rest of it had gone.

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    But surely if the ad staff were checking against a tin eye type thing it wouldn't be an issue as no fakes would be published? Or is that just too simplistic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gordo View Post
    Pictures which are definitely not the escort shouldn't be there. And it's already E-I policy to remove those. Not that it always happens, but it's already the policy. The question really is what to do with photos which Ad Staff isn't sure about. At the moment those are marked unverified until Ad Staff get more information. An don wants to remove them, and most people seem to agree with him, but I think he and they haven't really thought this through. Remember, we aren't discussing fake pics here. Everyone agrees those should be removed. We are discussing pics which may well be genuine. And we will never find out whether they are genuine if they are removed from profiles, because the only people who could confirm that they are genuine, reviewers, won't be able to see them.
    In the meantime, punters taking a gamble on pics that may or may not be accurate can be out of pocket through deception.
    I know that it's still the guy's decision to go ahead with the punt, even if the lady is not as per her pics.
    The process of verifying escort photos needs to be dealt with far more professionally by E-I.
    I don't think an excuse like 'Ad staff are too busy dealing with other things' is satisfactory.
    If they are too busy, then hire additional staff to deal solely with the photo accuracy, and make it mandatory for all escorts that their profile isn't put up until they have provided the required proof. I have heard complaints, previously, from ladies about delays in getting their profiles put up, even after they have paid the fee, so additional staff should reduce this delay.

    Of course, it could mean a reduction in advertising revenue for E-I.
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    Let me ask everyone a simple question: What do you think E-I does, or should do, to verify a photo? Presumably they should put it through tineye, as Lucy said, but then what? Tineye will tell you whether it's a porn star or not. But it won't tell you whether it's the lady's hot friend, or one of her pimp's other girls, or even her, as she was 20 years ago. So what do you think they should be doing?

    E-I has photo verification because other sites have photo verification and E-I would look bad if they didn't. But it's not something you should really take seriously. And that's not ever going to change.

    “I wish you wouldn’t keep appearing and vanishing so suddenly; you make one quite giddy!”
    “All right,” said the Cat; and this time it vanished quite slowly, beginning with the end of the tail, and ending with the grin, which remained some time after the rest of it had gone.

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