Mosney asylum seekers

[anitasizzle]

Asylum seekers came here in their droves in the 90's Celtic tiger era heavily pregnant direct from Africa even though theres no direct flights from Africa under a clause in the Good Friday agreement(we didn't realise this) their children were allowed to stay here they got new houses/apartment new furniture buggies etc etc we all know the drill - a total mockery of taxpayers money, now we hear 150 of 800 occupants of Mosney are to be moved to alternative accommodation to save taxpayers money THEY WON'T GO! They've used the usual Human rights nonsense/torture/being treated like animals etc placards Its time for zero tolerance now get them on the next boat out of this country if they resist getting on the buses today there are white asylum seekers too there just to remind racist opportunists here...

The only people who should be seeking asylum in Ireland is Irish people; they've been financially abused by Fienna Fail for so long it would take decades of having a healthy sex llife, and years spent in pubs around the country before they can act like normal human beings again

[carlos marvado]

Years ago when the celtic tiger was roaring like the demented over-bloated ravenous beast that he was, I predicted that construction units and house prices could not possibly continue to go in the direction that they were headed.......it was totally unsustainable because the salary increases that would have been required so that ordinary working people could afford a chicken coup would have made the Irish economy and production costs even more uncompetitive then they eventually became. I suspected that when the shit hit the fan and a major recession swelled the numbers of the unemployed, that migrants, asylum seekers etc would be targeted amongst those who were held to blame for this situation. It's not the asylum seekers that got us into this mess, it was the greed of the gobshite classes who run the show. Hitting out at asylum seekers makes about as much sense as blaming the old and the sick for the cost of the health service, the poor and the unemployment for the cost of the social welfare system and children for the cost of the education system. When you start to scape goat people who are different because they are easy to target, you are making yourself fellow travelers of Le Pen and Hitler.

[anon361]

Nobody likes a sponger but i dont consider these people as spongers, they are just coming over here to better their lives and those of their families(unborn or not) and if the only medium open to them is to live off the scraps (id like to see anyone else try live off what they get) that we throw them so be it, the amount of taxes I pay is frightening but you know what, if some of it is going towards giving a kid or any person; black, White or simply human, I don't begrudge them one cent of it..

[RicFlair]

this is the sort of crap that the irish fleeing the famine had to put up with when the arrived in the usa.

irish go home - free loaders - good for nothings- cant speak english- dont want to work - only good for drinking etc.


well done lads.

I'm sorry to disagree Mr Horan but the 150 folks in Mosney have all had all there applications for refugee status rejected, the 6.01 news got that wrong cause I know people. But they're appealing the decision in the courts. Which is a fucking joke. They're just delaying it as much as possible. They shouldn't be here if they failed to convince interviewers for refugee status. Its horrible. They're still here and their milking it.

I know some former refugees that became Irish Citizens eventually and even they think they should go. The news ain't reporting it correctly so I don't blame people for trying to defend the Mosney clowns.

[pussyposse]

I'm sorry to disagree Mr Horan but the 150 folks in Mosney have all had all there applications for refugee status rejected, the 6.01 news got that wrong cause I know people. But they're appealing the decision in the courts. Which is a fucking joke. They're just delaying it as much as possible. They shouldn't be here if they failed to convince interviewers for refugee status. Its horrible. They're still here and their milking it.

I know some former refugees that became Irish Citizens eventually and even they think they should go. The news ain't reporting it correctly so I don't blame people for trying to defend the Mosney clowns.

And your qualifications to be a judge are ?

[An don]

The poor refugees are hunger striking because the accomadation they are being moved to is not as good as what they are in now. So let them starve or go back to the place of origin. I never heard of any irish immigrant going on hunger strike in another country because of their free accomadation . Charity begins at home, we have done our best to accomadate these people because of the eu law ,but why should these people bitch about their new accomadation , when our own are starving on the street.

Rumour has most of them are taxi drivers anyway lol

[anon361]

I'm sorry to disagree Mr Horan but the 150 folks in Mosney have all had all there applications for refugee status rejected, the 6.01 news got that wrong cause I know people. But they're appealing the decision in the courts. Which is a fucking joke. They're just delaying it as much as possible. They shouldn't be here if they failed to convince interviewers for refugee status. Its horrible. They're still here and their milking it.

I know some former refugees that became Irish Citizens eventually and even they think they should go. The news ain't reporting it correctly so I don't blame people for trying to defend the Mosney clowns.

I have no doubt the vast majority of these people don't meet refugee status requirements but as I said I ain't going to condemn them for trying, they are only trying to improve their lives and once they stay within the law and don't try to pillage, plunder and rape our women which some people seem to be afraid of I'm fine with them trying.
I would be more concerened about the thousands of people who are currently on social but refuse to come off it because the positions they are being offered is beneath them or worse still, the money being offered is less than that which they recieve from social welfare. That is a disgrace, it is supposed to be a stop gap to help out those who finds themselves in the mis-fortune of not being able to get work, not a career choice which some seem to think it is..

[Markon]

Eh,

maybe I've got this wrong but Irish people moaning about economic migrants using every trick under the sun is a bit fresh, We wrote the book.

People come here to try to better their lives and are only doing what the Irish have been doing for centuries.

Ah come on. Irish emigration in the past, is incomparable to asylum seekers. Hardship in Ireland was a direct result of an 700 year occupation of our country by the Brits, so you can hardly blame them for emmigrating to London. Ireland on the other hand has never invaded any other country, and therefore we haven't contributed negatively to the situation in their home countries.

As for America, I think the Irish had as much right to try their luck in America as any other European ( as opposed to the Native American tribes ).

Asylum seekers are not allowed work, so are forced to live on what we give them . their representatives have pleaded with us to allow them work whilst their cases are heard and we refuse.

as for milking the system, take a walk around Kilburn high street or birmingham and look at all the Irish waiting for their Giro.

Would these be the same Irish who probably built most of London in the first place?

Personally I think that once their applications are rejected, they should be immediately deported. The thought that they'd lay down roots, having had their application for asylum rejected is ridicules.

I think our constituional ammendment a few years ago, to not give citizenship to children of illegal immigrants born here, took care of the most important loophole.

[bigcxxk]

this is always going to be a difficult topic. no doubt, there are asylum seekers who do abuse the system, but on the flip side, there are genuine asylum seekers too. 90 million euros is not a significant amount when you consider that outfits like FAS have a budget of 20 million a week. There are loop holes in the system. My understanding of asylum is that the person leaves their country of origin and looks for asylum in the first safe country the arrive in. Now, as someone stated earlier in the thread, there are no direct flights from Africa to Ireland. Most would come through one of the big european hubs. This leads me to believe that some have come to Ireland, and sent word to their peeps back home that Ireland is a great place. There has to be a stop put to this.

Other posters have compared asylum seekers to the emigration Ireland has always suffered. That is wrong. Emigration is because of economic reasons, asylum is if you are persecuted or afraid for your life. So there can't be a comparison on those. Most of the eastern europeans came here for economic reasons, not for asylum. A lot of them did the jobs that the irish wouldn't do. Jobs that we thought were beneath us because we were all fooled by the celtic tiger. This is what the irish have been doing for generations. A lot of eastern eurpoeans have now gone home. But they are still able to claim childerens allowance for kids born here. This has to be stopped.

This country is fucked. We are been told that we are technically out of recession. That is unbelievable. I know in my area, no politician would say that in public because he would be lynched. I myself have found that this year has been the most difficult I have faced, on a purely financial basis. But that leads to a whole other raft of problems. The next budget is going to be equally as tough, if not harder, because the government caved in with the unions. Now they have guarenteed no more pay cuts for the public sector for 4 years. The only way they will be able to get money from them is by raising taxes, and that will affect everyone. The public sector is bloated. There are too many top level positions. Someone to do everything. There are as many in the public sector, as there are on the dole. If not more.

This government is clueless. NAMA will destroy this country for generations to come. They have revised down their projected profit from 4.8 billion to 1 billion in 10 years. But I really don't see them making any profit. They would do well to just break even. Now, the EU are expressing concerns about NAMA. That's the last thing this country needs. If it wasn't for EU money, Ireland would still be an insignificant little island of the coast of europe. As it is, the EU and the central bank has to approve any financial decisions that ireland makes.

The banks should be forced into taking the blame for a lot of this. The took risks. But now they don't have to pay. It dosen't work that way for Joe Soap. Every top level banker should have been relieved of their duties. And the same goes for the Dail. Every sitting TD should not be returned. There are none of them that can hold their head high. This country needs a total change of direction. We export most of our produce, meat etc. and import the same stuff from abroad. Why are we buying scallions from Peru?? Can we not supply ourselves with our own?? I know we can because I have some in my back garden. I also have some cabbages, peas, carrots, beetroot, leeks, spinach, onions, brocolli, brussels sprouts and courgettes. Not one single air mile on any of them. I have a little patch.

Why don't we invest in growing our own at a reasonable price. I know why Irish stuff is so expensive. It's the production costs. But if we were more self sufficient ourselves, this would decrease. We import 90% of our energy from abroad. I pay 49c for a bunch of scallions from Peru, half way around the world, when I'd have to pay maybe twice that and more, for Irish grown. It's all mad. The more I talk about this, the madder I get. I just have to end this rant now before I totally loose it. Things have to change. I know this went a little off topic, and if someone wants to, they are welcome to move this post to another thread. Thanks for reading.

[Experienced Punter esq]

maybe we should send a fleet of limousines down to Mosney to tempt them to leave to their new destination, people have to bear in mind that this is a cost cutting measure by this Government we've all had to suffer these measures, others making nonsensical assertions of begrudgery against asylum seekers & blaming them for the downturn are waaaay off the point...