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    That is the muslim faith apparently,i can't believe she was stoned with over 1000 watching.Its like the christians being thrown to the lions in rome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayden View Post
    i dont get why you felt the need to mention the plight of women in Iran tbh rover. Nobody here has punted there (id say) and there is not much any of us can do about it as horrible as it is.
    Just to show how the other half lives, were so pampered over here, trying to make up our minds which escort we are going to choose. Then there is the male dominated countries such as Iran, it's a far different story. I won't elaborate anymore, I'm afraid I've hit the again and I don't want to get out of my depth with alcohol on me.
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    stoning has nothing to do with faith. It's laws that people invented. there are many, many religious muslim leaders against stoning, but the only people who support it and allow it to continue, are the power greedy government leaders. what a surprise that they keep stoning as a valid punishment, it's a power trippers wet dream.

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    Sure in most of these countries the male can have several wives how is that not commiting adultry.i agree with what you said but they use religon to their own gains.
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    they are allowed have many wives, so obviously that isn't committing adultery, as it is acceptable. Stoning is an ancient punishment that is WELL over due to be outlawed, and one which has NOTHING to do with the religion of the country it happens to occur in.

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    Stoning no longer goes on in the western world ,it tends to be in middle eastern countries where the majority religon would be muslim,surely that is a trend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayden View Post
    i dont get why you felt the need to mention the plight of women in Iran tbh rover. Nobody here has punted there (id say) and there is not much any of us can do about it as horrible as it is.
    I'd have to say you're wrong there Rayden. But as Rover says, few of us have any idea how the other half of the world live, nor do we care...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioux View Post
    they are allowed have many wives, so obviously that isn't committing adultery, as it is acceptable. Stoning is an ancient punishment that is WELL over due to be outlawed, and one which has NOTHING to do with the religion of the country it happens to occur in.
    It's just hard to believe that such barbarism exists in 2010, although there are atrocities occuring all over the world. Let us thank God we live in Ireland. They say the ghoulists (spelling?) love a lynching or something similar, I personally find it grose and hard to accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioux View Post
    they are allowed have many wives, so obviously that isn't committing adultery, as it is acceptable. Stoning is an ancient punishment that is WELL over due to be outlawed, and one which has NOTHING to do with the religion of the country it happens to occur in.
    I'm sorry Mioux, but I'm afraid this has every bit as much to do with religion as it does law...............

    Do you think it was against the law to buy condoms in this country in the not very distant past was all about law and not religion???
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    Quote Originally Posted by aml View Post
    Any woman that is commited of adultry is stoned in iran,it is not just prostitutes.That is their religon and beliefs i am afraid.
    This is incorrect.

    Remember we are talking about Iran, NOT one of the other more hardline countries. Iran is much more like a first world country than many of those other hard-line muslim countries.

    Only in an extremely limited number of cases is it even considered in either of those situations. There isn't a grave problem with prostitution if it's not adultery, they get whiplashed sometimes and jail terms sometimes. Most of the time, they just overlook it like they do here. There's even talk of legalizing prostitution there:

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran 'brothel' plan rejected


    That would put them AHEAD of us in that way. Sometimes some regions might give it out for some adultery or something, those would be like the conservatives here. In reality those aren't carried out.

    The only things that are genuinely given capital punishment in Iran are:

    1. Rape.

    2. Murder.

    3. Pedophilia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran

    I agree that the punishment is wrong just like a jail term is here. But no, prostitutes aren't just hanged just for being prostitutes as rover and others seemed to be implying, especially not unless they've been given severe warnings for whatever reason the people in charge don't want it.

    Let's be realistic here: out of the 75 million population of Iran, a few enactions of capital punishment isn't that much. And they don't do it for ordinary prostitution or even ordinary adultery. Out of the small number carried out, they are almost ALL of rape, murder or pedophilia.... maybe some judges there somewhere are crazy, but they don't just routinely round up escorts and execute them.

    You're far, far more likely to die from the troubles that have been going on there than execution. Executing people is mainly trying to keep a cap on the violence, when things are so bad sometimes you just have to take sharp, very strong measures to prevent the country falling apart completely.

    Other muslim countries are much worse than Iran. The Chinese are notorious for carrying out beheadings with very little evidence. Iran is different, it's like the most developed muslim country.

    I can't say the following for sure, but I think I would much rather go to a prostitute in Iran than in a country like South Africa, where most of them carry guns and a huge percentage have AIDS.

    I just thought it was a bit much for Rover to be putting that as the first post, when prostitutes in Iran are NOT given that type of punishment.
    Last edited by nicegirlsarenice; 23-06-10 at 00:23.

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