The way to limit escorting is....

[debest]

Yes. And also to commit another sexual crime. Shur anyone with half a brain can see that.

We know what type of man you are then....

[Doozer]

I have to disagree Nicegirls.......you're suggesting that most or many punters would possibly resort to rape if they did not have access to escorts. I think there is a major psychological difference between a man who pays a woman to give him sexual pleasure and a man who uses sex to dominate and degrade a woman. One is consentual and the other isn't. If there were no escorts, those men in relationships would have to make do with what they have or seek affairs/one-night stands or join swingers clubs. The majority, who for whatever reason, do not have access to physical intimacy with another person, would probably be more prone to depression. Escorts don't reduce the incidence of rape......they do however provide much needed company and sexual release for people who might otherwise be psychologically worse off without this. There is a good debate on another thread about the chemicals released during sex and the psychological benefits of sexual activity.

Thats a very good point there Carlos, Indeed a lack of sexual release would indeed bring psychological disorders such as depression and anxiety as sex itself does regulate our thoughts and brain patterens releasing many neurochemicals into our bodies for our wellbeing. Rape and sexual deviency wil not arise, (at least in the vast majority of people) who canot have or get sex from any means.

Now Dont have a go at Nicegirls he is giving his opinion and that should be respected.

[nicegirlsarenice]

I'll revise my claim that it's obvious for rape BUT I do think it is a reasonably clear thing for pushing boundaries on girls more by certain people (especially people that may never have been punters at all). Luther really annoyed me the way he just came in saying what I was saying was "bullshit" and "absolute bullshit", especially when I was more sure of this second one.

There might be more cheating, more buying porn DVDs etc without escorts, but more rape? I don't think so. I think rape is a violent crime done by men with a severe problem. I think punters are average men. I don't believe for one second that any high percentage of men who use escorts would turn to rape if escorts were not available. If that were true, punters would be animals and I wouldn't be here serving them.

Nobody said high percentage, but not every punter is a saint either being realistic. I would guess that a lot higher percentage of non-punters might actually be more likely to commit sexual crime, BUT that doesn't mean NO punter would do something like that, we know what both punters and non-punters are capable of. Maybe non-punters would still be more likely to commit sex crimes even if punting was cut-off. But it would waste a lot of people's time, both males and females, and make them more frustrated in general. So I don't know if it would extend all the way up to rape, but after a few months or years of that... the rate might increase very slightly or it might not. But I would definitely say pushing for sex would increase.... and with punters out so much doing that the non-punters would get even more frustrated because there would be a big lack of available girls. I know myself I would "try" a lot more things with more girls if there were no escorts, I would have to, so would a lot of other men and tensions would heat up. Hopefully you see what I'm saying.

It's not so straightfoward that if there were no escorts that punters would just overnight resort to sex-crimes intead.... it would just create a shortage, like a shortage of food. And that might be enough to set off a person who was already unstable, perhaps was never a punter in the first place, but now had all this new competition from the punters.

where has it

Try here for one: http://www.independent.org/pdf/worki...ostitution.pdf

Prostitution is a good, natural thing, and like all good things that are good for everyone can have lots of knock-on positive effects. Nobody is claiming it would just be a simple switch from going to escorts to harassing other women.

I have to disagree Nicegirls.......you're suggesting that most or many punters would possibly resort to rape if they did not have access to escorts. I think there is a major psychological difference between a man who pays a woman to give him sexual pleasure and a man who uses sex to dominate and degrade a woman. One is consentual and the other isn't. If there were no escorts, those men in relationships would have to make do with what they have or seek affairs/one-night stands or join swingers clubs. The majority, who for whatever reason, do not have access to physical intimacy with another person, would probably be more prone to depression. Escorts don't reduce the incidence of rape......they do however provide much needed company and sexual release for people who might otherwise be psychologically worse off without this. There is a good debate on another thread about the chemicals released during sex and the psychological benefits of sexual activity.

I know there's a big difference, but again what I wrote above.... there would be a bigger shortage of girls to go around. I would expect to see a big increase in physical violence against males as well as more males would be going out with an objective of trying to have sex.

Thats a very good point there Carlos, Indeed a lack of sexual release would indeed bring psychological disorders such as depression and anxiety as sex itself does regulate our thoughts and brain patterens releasing many neurochemicals into our bodies for our wellbeing. Rape and sexual deviency wil not arise, (at least in the vast majority of people) who canot have or get sex from any means.

Now Dont have a go at Nicegirls he is giving his opinion and that should be respected.

Yeah definitely. Sex is an ordinary, instinctive thing, and like any social activity it can cause problems if you are restricted from it.

[Mr Magoo]

It sure can, like make you post long rambling replies that nobody is going to take the time to read.

[Rockman]

Is it not obvious that prostitution will never go away, it has always been with us and always will. I think most men whether the admit it or not approve of it. I believe legalising it is the only answer and this will clean it up. Lets face it how many people got involved in a doomed relationship just because of lust.

A married female acquaintance which I recently debated the merits of legalising prostitution with and who thinks escorts are dirt is involved in a relationship just for the convience of it yet. I didnt bring up the point during our argument but was thinking her current relationship was similar to being an escort as she is only with the guy for his money and the stability..

[carlos marvado]

A married female acquaintance which I recently debated the merits of legalising prostitution with and who thinks escorts are dirt is involved in a relationship just for the convience of it yet. I didnt bring up the point during our argument but was thinking her current relationship was similar to being an escort as she is only with the guy for his money and the stability..

I would estimate that there is a reasonably high proportion of marriages which are loveless and have developed into a business or social transaction e.g. institutionalised prostitution.

[MrFussy]

My post was intended to highlight the changing times and the focus on efforts to stop activities that are considered illegal.....Whilst I appreciate all the replies I must admit I am shocked by some views but I'd like to highlight how things such as punting / this site etc. may have to change..just based on events over the last few days....

1. Eircom has agreed to divulge ISP addresses etc. of people downloading music illegally...UPC are in court in June as regards this
2. Facebook / Twitter has been highlighted as regards sites susceptable to legal action based on posting content. Boards.ie has admitted that this is a concern, but the jurisdiction for web hosting may impact legal action
3. The Revenue have highlighted that landlords with multiple properties will be reviewed as regards paying 2nd home tax etc.
4. The Guards have highlighted that sharing of information, across agencies is key, regardless of Data Protection issues...this is currently an EU issue...

Times are changing, and they will change, this industry will change...and as a punter (who punts for sexual variety with beautiful people as my reason)...I only hope we also recognise the changes afoot and adapt.....

[luther]

Yes. And also to commit another sexual crime. Shur anyone with half a brain can see that.

And what does that say about you then............

Luther really annoyed me the way he just came in saying what I was saying was "bullshit" and "absolute bullshit", especially when I was more sure of this second one.

I've very sorry that I hurt your feelings, and I've very glad you revised your claim, I'm sticking to mine........

And thanks for the link, I especially liked the words like "hypothesis" and "theory" and "estimated" being used so many times.............

Rape is not about sex, it's about power and contol and domination and your lack of understanding and knowledge of this is the most dangerous thing here.............

I guess that must be in the half of the brain that you don't seem to have.............