Trusted Reviewer Criteria Reaction

[Wakka Wakka]

These proposed systems are over-complicated and are being over-thought by the wrong people, i.e. people that spend a lot of time on the site, posting on the message boards and submitting reviews.

What would be created, and maybe this is the unwritten intention at the back of all this, is a system where only a select few will have attained membership of the ‘golden circle’, learned the secret handshakes, received the invitation to the high table at the king’s banquet while all others will be excluded unless they jump through the (hula) hoops of those in charge.

Asking reviewers to put so much work in will put them off writing reviews, as the reviews would become worthless unless they agreed with one submitted by a ‘trusted reviewer’. Asking an escort for a reference will mean only positive reviews will be submitted.

It’s funny that asking an escort for their cooperation before submitting a review is now being recommended while only recently any review that was suspected of being too close to the escort was ratted, I believe the word ‘sap’ was used in describing the reviewer, how time flies....

There’s a story behind each escort, each reviewer, each client and each browser of this site. To ask all to comply with a strict set of rules or be left feeling that their opinion doesn’t matter is wrong. Some relationships between clients and escorts are cordial and friendly, maybe developing over time into actual friendships, some just purely financial, it is something private between those parties. If they choose to share their experiences, either party, they should not be discouraged. If others feel the comments submitted are disingenuous they should certainly have a right of reply. If someone is willing to fight for their opinion there is more likelihood it is true, the escort submitting a review for him or herself will probably not bother trying to back it up, it would only attract more attention. Likewise a malicious review should be open to challenge by the escorts or others who have spent time with that escort. The site should open up to more of such debate instead of inventing rules that will close the site off to people.

The operators, and moderators of this site need to ask themselves a fundamental question before they start inventing criteria that only a few users of the site can meet and only a few will want to meet.

Do they want to encourage new people to participate in the site?

Because if they do the path being suggested will work against that and encourage people not to participate in which case the reviews and the posts become a private club. In that case just meet up in a pub somewhere and have a good gossip and a bitching session once a week, clear the air and go back to work.

My open involvement with the site is very small to date. The question is whether the operators of the site want to encourage someone like me to continue to participate or not because the measures being suggested would certainly encourage me to take on the role of Conscientious Objector, making my own choices and keeping my opinions and experiences to myself, and leave the few to chat among themselves separate from the outside world.

[Quarterpoundher]

It’s funny that asking an escort for their cooperation before submitting a review is now being recommended while only recently any review that was suspected of being too close to the escort was ratted, I believe the word ‘sap’ was used in describing the reviewer, how time flies....

You are generalising things. Its not the case that "any" such reviews are ratted, only the ones that we have agreed are suspect and discussed.

Plus I used the word sap and not any other mod and I am not involved with badge issuing so again your ascertains hold no water.

[jackpot]

You are generalising things, probably because one of yours was ratted. Its not the case that "any" such reviews are ratted, only the ones that we have agreed are suspect and discussed.

Plus I used the word sap and not any other mod and I am not involved with badge issuing so again your ascertains hold no water.

And your point is...

[Quarterpoundher]

And your point is...

Exactly what I said...

[JAMESCORK]

Are we losing the plot here slightly? I am participant of EI because a like meeting and … cough… greeting very attractive women. The review system allows me to select girls to my taste and to avoid disappointment. A “Trusted Reviewer” as I understand it is a reviewer who firstly, actually takes the time to post his review to the benefit of others and secondly, should be an individual whose reviews have been vetted in some way as to lead to his trustee status. That’s it! A regular punter who wants to share his experiences and benefit from the experiences of others. It should not make him anymore special than any other reviewer – except in the fact he has put in the time, experience, and hard earned cash to arrive at this trust. We HAVE to get started on a system that recommences the handing out of badges (although a badge is an unfortunate icon as it denotes a medal of achievement over others, maybe a simple tick mark would be better). If we don’t seem to have a fair system in place going forward the begrudgery will continue.

I think the idea of identifying Trusted Reviewers is definitely a good one. I find it especially helpful when I see a badge on a negative review (that’s just my methods). But as with any system there has to be some type of forum in existence in order to vet a proposed reviewer and arrive at that decision. This golden circle comment is exactly the wrong begrudging attitude we don’t need. Frequent posters, I feel, have more experience of reading reviews, reading punters’ experiences, reading escorts’ experiences and possible joining in on the discussions. They also visit the Reviewers and Warning sections regularly. And of course,surely the Mods have the most experience as they have to monitor all this.

Common sense can easily identify a trusted reviewer. Therefore my suggestion is this. We have now commenced the Established Member section. These members are the ones that should put forward a new Trusted Reviewer and it should be put to the vote or poll. For gods sake we currently have a poll to find out if an escort Isis is attractive or not. Why not start a new ‘Potential Trusted Reviewer’ section. An individual may put himself up to the vote if he wishes. It is in our interest to identify potential candidates and put them up there. If the proposed achieves sufficient positive votes over negative, he gets his badge. If a candidate is borderline NOW involve the escorts he has reviewed. A Mod may post a reason where he/she feels he should not and this could be taken into consideration also. All members will check the proposed candidates’ reviews before voting, hence we all get a say.

I use the Trusted Reviewer extensively and find it easier to scan reviews. I want more trustees to be set up as soon as possible to make my life easier. At the end of the day all we want is to select a suitable escort effectively and not to continue to divide the punters into two more and more distant groups.

[adogwithabone]

Are we losing the plot here slightly? I am participant of EI because a like meeting and … cough… greeting very attractive women. The review system allows me to select girls to my taste and to avoid disappointment. A “Trusted Reviewer” as I understand it is a reviewer who firstly, actually takes the time to post his review to the benefit of others and secondly, should be an individual whose reviews have been vetted in some way as to lead to his trustee status. That’s it! A regular punter who wants to share his experiences and benefit from the experiences of others. It should not make him anymore special than any other reviewer – except in the fact he has put in the time, experience, and hard earned cash to arrive at this trust. We HAVE to get started on a system that recommences the handing out of badges (although a badge is an unfortunate icon as it denotes a medal of achievement over others, maybe a simple tick mark would be better). If we don’t seem to have a fair system in place going forward the begrudgery will continue.

I think the idea of identifying Trusted Reviewers is definitely a good one. I find it especially helpful when I see a badge on a negative review (that’s just my methods). But as with any system there has to be some type of forum in existence in order to vet a proposed reviewer and arrive at that decision. This golden circle comment is exactly the wrong begrudging attitude we don’t need. Frequent posters, I feel, have more experience of reading reviews, reading punters’ experiences, reading escorts’ experiences and possible joining in on the discussions. They also visit the Reviewers and Warning sections regularly. And of course,surely the Mods have the most experience as they have to monitor all this.

Common sense can easily identify a trusted reviewer. Therefore my suggestion is this. We have now commenced the Established Member section. These members are the ones that should put forward a new Trusted Reviewer and it should be put to the vote or poll. For gods sake we currently have a poll to find out if an escort Isis is attractive or not. Why not start a new ‘Potential Trusted Reviewer’ section. An individual may put himself up to the vote if he wishes. It is in our interest to identify potential candidates and put them up there. If the proposed achieves sufficient positive votes over negative, he gets his badge. If a candidate is borderline NOW involve the escorts he has reviewed. A Mod may post a reason where he/she feels he should not and this could be taken into consideration also. All members will check the proposed candidates’ reviews before voting, hence we all get a say.

I use the Trusted Reviewer extensively and find it easier to scan reviews. I want more trustees to be set up as soon as possible to make my life easier. At the end of the day all we want is to select a suitable escort effectively and not to continue to divide the punters into two more and more distant groups.

I agree with this. Trusted review status should be awarded after being proposed by an existing trusted reviewer or escort, scutinised and voted on by other existing t.r.s and escorts. I would accept that E-I would have to have a veto in the event that they had knowledge of the reviewer that they were unable to disclose. Equally, the process should work in reverse with a trusted reviewer being able to challenge the bona fides of another t. r..

[luther]

I agree with this. Trusted review status should be awarded after being proposed by an existing trusted reviewer or escort, scutinised and voted on by other existing t.r.s and escorts.

I hate to point this out but, apart from being just com mods, some of the people dealing with this are also trusted reviewers.........

And is a recomendation from 3 escorts not input from escorts???

[jackpot]

Exactly what I said...

So you did mean that!!!

[Wakka Wakka]

You are generalising things. Its not the case that "any" such reviews are ratted, only the ones that we have agreed are suspect and discussed.

Plus I used the word sap and not any other mod and I am not involved with badge issuing so again your ascertains hold no water.

My repeating the word ‘sap’ was simply to indicate the irony that at the time my review was treated with derision while the new system being proposed would require that a reviewer effectively be cleared by an escort, surely a situation that will only happen if the escort is being reviewed positively.

I hadn’t checked to see who had made the comment; I’ve no interest in engaging with anyone about it one way or the other (bar this clarification of my comment). I simply repeated it to highlight what I saw as an ironic situation.

I don’t bear you any malice at all over the comment as I think the issue was eventually sorted by the end of that day

I’ve no problem with a system to provide accurate information to someone reading a review, it’ll help everyone, I just think the one being proposed isn’t the right way to go.

[Quarterpoundher]

My repeating the word ‘sap’ was simply to indicate the irony that at the time my review was treated with derision while the new system being proposed would require that a reviewer effectively be cleared by an escort, surely a situation that will only happen if the escort is being reviewed positively.

I hadn’t checked to see who had made the comment; I’ve no interest in engaging with anyone about it one way or the other (bar this clarification of my comment). I simply repeated it to highlight what I saw as an ironic situation.

I don’t bear you any malice at all over the comment as I think the issue was eventually sorted by the end of that day

I’ve no problem with a system to provide accurate information to someone reading a review, it’ll help everyone, I just think the one being proposed isn’t the right way to go.

There is no perfect solution to anything to do with reviews as everyone well knows. The mods who volunteered their time to this are doing what they feel is the fairest way. It once was just done by one person and no one know why a badge was issued, at least this way all three have to agree and it is discussed in full view of Patricia in mod forum and is a combination of not just those 3 but also 3 opinions of escorts into the equation so their is checks and balances here that did not exist before. It is simply not possible for any one mod to get someone a badge, all 3 have to agree and even if 20 escorts wrote glowing refs for someone that still does not mean he will get a badge if only 1 badge mod vetos it that's that stopped in its tracks. To make out that all someone has to do is write 3 positives and then ask them to give a thumbs up is not being accurate to the terms and conditions involved in getting a badge. Badges are only an addition to things, people can ignore them or place merit on someone having them. This new criteria may not be to everyone's taste but its far better then what went before it.