Disappointed in You Guys

[Quarterpoundher]

Thats not true , just because people havent signed the petition doesnt mean that they dont care about the working girls . They might have several reasons for not signing it.

I am just saying that the most inane thread imaginable will get more views clocked up here in hours then that petition has gotten in its first few days and that thread would probably stay up top for longer.

To the people that have others concerns, those concerns about privacy have been dealt with. This thread is now becoming bogged down on the side issue of multiple voting.

That would be a nice problem to have, but first people have to vote once which is what is trying to be encouraged.

[nicegirlsarenice]

So when a paper petition thats 5 foot high is handed in to say the Goverment they verify every sig on it and write a letter to every address to validate that sig?

Come on get real...

They verify SOME of them. They examine it to see if it matches up. Ever heard of the movie "The Invention of Lying" Quarterpoundher? Well they already invented it, thousands of years ago. If people could have gotten away with it years ago then they would have tried to as well.

You can lay the guilt trip on me all you want, if something doesn't make sense then it doesn't make sense.

As they say in northern ireland wise up.

The truth is that I would support this petition on the basis that the government might be stupid enough to take it seriously. *shrugs* They're stupid enough to criminalize prostitution in the first place, maybe they're also dumb enough to fall for this.

[am386]

I believe an online petition like that even if signed by lots of people is worthless when presented to those who really could change the laws (i.e. the politicians).

I do believe that a petition with lots of support can at least send out a signal. The press is seemingly trying to put a spin on the current situation (i.e. only 25 signatures on the petition) and yes, the signal that is being sent out is that the law as it stands is fine, although exactly the opposite is the truth.

I encourage every punter who reads this to sign the petition, you don't need to sign with your real name or with your primary and well known email address. While the law probably won't be changed only on the basis of a petition like this, at least a positive signal can be sent out to the world.

[Quarterpoundher]

So if you think that a petition given to the government by a site such as this with the reputation that it has, it will get the government to take it seriously?

Maybe you are the one that should get real and spend some more time in the real world rather then on this site everyday.

Did I say it was realistic?

Did I say the Goverment would do anything?

No I did not, I said that all changes start somewhere... even when you don't know it has started it can have repercussions into the future...

You are also showing yourself to have an added agenda here so if your purpose is to kill of this idea out of a grudge you may have with its owner or others then you can take a walk out in that real world you mention.

[Quarterpoundher]

They verify SOME of them. They examine it to see if it matches up. Ever heard of the movie "The Invention of Lying" Quarterpoundher? Well they already invented it, thousands of years ago. If people could have gotten away with it years ago then they would have tried to as well.

You can lay the guilt trip on me all you want, if something doesn't make sense then it doesn't make sense.

As they say in northern ireland wise up.

The truth is that I would support this petition on the basis that the government might be stupid enough to take it seriously. *shrugs* They're stupid enough to criminalize prostitution in the first place, maybe they're also dumb enough to fall for this.

Really not going to keep responding to this side issue. People of good conscience who may have had privacy issues have been informed what to do and they can sign or not sign if they want. I would ask them to sign as signing has the "possibility" of adding a voice to change...

What will not signing change?

Nothing...

[Apollo1]

Did I say it was realistic?

Did I say the Goverment would do anything?

No I did not, I said that all changes start somewhere... even when you don't know it has started it can have repercussions into the future...

You are also showing yourself to have an added agenda here so if your purpose is to kill of this idea out of a grudge you may have with its owner or others then you can take a walk out in that real world you mention.

What are you on about????
Ffs sake bud so just because im not showering the idea of this petition in compliments will rose tinted glasses yr saying i have an added agenda or a grudge with this sites owners.?? give me a fuckng break...

I dont have any "added agenda".I dont know the owners of this site and to be honest i dont want to know them nor do i have any sort of grudge against this site unlike you im not that sad but you cant deny the fact that this site lets agencies advertise on it,i mean anyone can see this if they click on any area around the country and what comes up are independent and agency escorts.You dont have to be a genius to work out that these agencies are obviously run by pimps and so when a site such as this lets this sort of advertising on its site and then puts a petition up for the change in law as regards the safety of letting escorts work in pairs well then when you juxtapose these two scenarios you create a paradox.I mean its not that fucking hard to see it...maybe you should start thinking for your self once in a while quarterpoundher like the rest of us and get up off yr hole and and start contributing to society in a positive way instead of advocating some petition on a site which contradicts itself with the advertising of agencies and its aparent care for true independents safety

And just because i disagree with something on this site i automatically have some sort of added agenda,holy shit and there was me thinking this was a democratic open forum..hmmmmm makes one think..

[Patricia]

I don't think online petitions are invalid. Regards people signing this petition 10 times each, we have software that removes duplicate signatures, based on same email address or from same IP address, so people are not signing multiple times.

[Quarterpoundher]

What are you on about????
Ffs sake bud so just because im not showering the idea of this petition in compliments will rose tinted glasses yr saying i have an added agenda or a grudge with this sites owners.?? give me a fuckng break...

I dont have any "added agenda".I dont know the owners of this site and to be honest i dont want to know them nor do i have any sort of grudge against this site unlike you im not that sad but you cant deny the fact that this site lets agencies advertise on it,i mean anyone can see this if they click on any area around the country and what comes up are independent and agency escorts.You dont have to be a genius to work out that these agencies are obviously run by pimps and so when a site such as this lets this sort of advertising on its site and then puts a petition up for the change in law as regards the safety of letting escorts work in pairs well then when you juxtapose these two scenarios you create a paradox.I mean its not that fucking hard to see it...maybe you should start thinking for your self once in a while quarterpoundher like the rest of us and get up off yr hole and and start contributing to society in a positive way instead of advocating some petition on a site which contradicts itself with the advertising of agencies and its aparent care for true independents safety

And just because i disagree with something on this site i automatically have some sort of added agenda,holy shit and there was me thinking this was a democratic open forum..hmmmmm makes one think..

Your second comment on previous post leads me to think otherwise.

[Patricia]

So if you think that a petition given to the government by a site such as this with the reputation that it has, it will get the government to take it seriously?

Maybe you are the one that should get real and spend some more time in the real world rather then on this site everyday.

What reputation is that? Sure some people object to sites like this one in general on moral etc grounds, but we haven't done anything to be considered dishonest people etc. We actually speak to various government departments all the time about various things, I'm quite sure we have always been honest in our dealings, so you know what... I do expect the government to take me seriously when I write to them. Anyone is welcome to disagree with my opinions etc, but when I do a petition, I do it properly and I don't expect to be dismissed on the basis that the content of my website isn't to everyone's taste.

[Patricia]

But if this petition cares so much about the ladies working in pairs for their own safety why does this site still let "agencies" advertise on this site that are almost certainly run by the lowest of the low pimps and also let other girls advertise on this site as independents who are almost certainly part of these agencies.I think if this site refused this sort of advertising and instead only let true independents advertise on this site i think it would make all the difference as regards people signing this petition in the first place....

We are constantly working hard against pimps etc. You don't always see it, because not everything we do is up for public debate here, but I'm telling you we are.

Regards not letting agencies advertise. The problem isn't agencies. There is nothing wrong with agencies as such, having an agent take care of your advertising and bookings for a fee is what suits some ladies best, especially ones who only work very part time.

Also we do a lot of work investigating pimps behind the scenes here and my personal experience is that the worst ones never advertise as agencies anyway. They always pretend to be independents.

So, in short, I don't think saying no agencies can advertise here would help anything.

It's going OT so I won't say it, but I actually have something to announce which I haven't said yet re this issue that was decided at some talks we had last week, but I will do later today.