Privacy vs Security

[Mrbean76]

I think a lot of clients don’t realize that for us to be verified we have to provide our passports to EI (and literally any other established advertising space). So we already do this. By default.

It is actually the norm in North America to provide a piece of ID & a picture of yourself with your ID to providers you want to hire.

I personally prefer LinkedIn and other types of screening, but I would LOVE for the ID to become a standard in screening.

Many of us (and many more of us) providers use/should use encrypted email accounts, so your information is safe & I happily delete the ID once the appointment is over. It’s there for safety if you end up killing us, like.

Is our livelihood less important than your discretion? We too have lives and we too are in danger (if not a greater one for the stigma of being a sex worker and hiring a sex worker will never be equal) of having our information exposed. And yet every single provider you have seen who is verified? EI has a photo of our ID.


In a very loving PS;

Ireland has not suddenly become a violent country. It has long been one, and one particularly violent towards women and children. Let’s drop the casual racism that blames diversity on this. Most of the men who have gone to jail over violence towards sex workers in this country have indeed been Irish.

I hear you but there's a slight difference to us giving advertisers our personal information and you giving the site your information.

We are participating in an illegal activity. I will never send an escort any form of official identification.

[MistressMonique]

Not to the escort...a confidential regulatory body

[bananabox999]

Not to the escort...a confidential regulatory body

That would be great, but we dont have that. Therein lies the problem.

[MistressMonique]

I know hence I wanted to open the discussion...I cancelled my Belfast tour next week due to personal safety concerns ... guys understand we are females, your sister, your daughter, your mother we just want to feel safe

[bigmango]

I know hence I wanted to open the discussion...I cancelled my Belfast tour next week due to personal safety concerns ... guys understand we are females, your sister, your daughter, your mother we just want to feel safe

Its good that you have opened the discussion........................

No communications device is secure................The Israelis have shown that

No computer system is totally secure......................that's a fact based on experience.....................

However let the discussion continue with mutual care & respect shown by providers & users for each other.

[bananabox999]

I genuinely feel for the girls here. Yes you should feel safe, but apart from references i just dont know what else to suggest currently. An id database is a no fly with the current laws.

But then how do new clients get in. I was new not that long ago, i had no references. Right now thats a red flag. Luckily, i guess i talked my way to meeting a beautiful lady. She took a chance on me. At the time i didnt really think of it. I was in my own head, worried about how nervous i was, but after the fact i realised just how crazy it is to open the door to a random guy. I had sent photos etc, she knew who i was, jeeze maybe id of been aswell send the id

Now i knew im a decent guy but she didnt. I get it, i do, but i just dont know how to fix it

Ps. Right now im a little drunk so fingers crossed that makes some sort of sense lol

[AmorInfinito8]

Look I think all clients want to make things safer for all the girls!!

But you are all going around in circles and even though it's all being said with the utmost respect it isn't going to get anybody anywhere!!!

We have to think logically and outside the box, set some basic ground rules?

What if all clients had to first become a member of E.I before any girl would agree to meet them?

This could be a statement on the E.I front page with details on how to register and advise on how to do it discreetly, create a new Email etc

Removing all the Lurkers/guests
the guys who meet girls without having any way for the girls to identify them in the future because they can use burner phones!?

Make them all register with identifying E.I names but keeping their true Identity hidden away from risk

This could form a datsbase!?

That way girls have some visibility of a client who has visited other girls on E.I

Yea they can delete their profile and create a new one some might say but that would put them in a higher risk category to any girl meeting them for the first time

Anyone who has just joined should be High risk so say 0* graduating to 1*/2*/3*/4*/5*
I haven't thought through yet how stars would be gained?
It can't be based on giving girls reviews because that would ruin the reviews system? Putting it in a good review for client* situation
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I'm only throwing out ideas here
There's enough intelligent people on here girls and clients to come up with something that will be acceptable to all

I know some in the past have said Escort references aren't the sulution
I've never been asked for one, and because of that I've never asked any of the girls to give me one

But something has to be done to give all the girls some security and confidence in who they might be meeting!!

[Rockerman]

Look I think all clients want to make things safer for all the girls!!

But you are all going around in circles and even though it's all being said with the utmost respect it isn't going to get anybody anywhere!!!

We have to think logically and outside the box, set some basic ground rules?

What if all clients had to first become a member of E.I before any girl would agree to meet them?

This could be a statement on the E.I front page with details on how to register and advise on how to do it discreetly, create a new Email etc

Removing all the Lurkers/guests
the guys who meet girls without having any way for the girls to identify them in the future because they can use burner phones!?

Make them all register with identifying E.I names but keeping their true Identity hidden away from risk

This could form a datsbase!?

That way girls have some visibility of a client who has visited other girls on E.I

Yea they can delete their profile and create a new one some might say but that would put them in a higher risk category to any girl meeting them for the first time

Anyone who has just joined should be High risk so say 0* graduating to 1*/2*/3*/4*/5*
I haven't thought through yet how stars would be gained?
It can't be based on giving girls reviews because that would ruin the reviews system? Putting it in a good review for client* situation
________________________________

I'm only throwing out ideas here
There's enough intelligent people on here girls and clients to come up with something that will be acceptable to all

I know some in the past have said Escort references aren't the sulution
I've never been asked for one, and because of that I've never asked any of the girls to give me one

But something has to be done to give all the girls some security and confidence in who they might be meeting!!

I was a user of this website for years before I joined the community so saying everyone just join won't work. An old regular persuaded me to join and eventually I said "Fuck it, it might be a laugh..." I would say the pandemic changed my mind actually. I wasn't as careful anymore, but still I know how to play the game.

Most punters just make the call. They have no interest in being a member because they have their reasons. Family etc. so it doesn't work like that.

What if you get banned?! Sure no girl would see you if that was the case lol!

[AmorInfinito8]

I was a user of this website for years before I joined the community so saying everyone just join won't work. An old regular persuaded me to join and eventually I said "Fuck it, it might be a laugh..." I would say the pandemic changed my mind actually. I wasn't as careful anymore, but still I know how to play the game.

Most punters just make the call. They have no interest in being a member because they have their reasons. Family etc. so it doesn't work like that.

What if you get banned?! Sure no girl would see you if that was the case lol!

Good point
It just seemed the easiest way to create some sort of database without clients giving away personal information
I know most clients have no interest in being on the Forum, but if they had to register on E.I anyway for at least a little visibility to the girls, then the girls could see there history of meeting others,
I'm only throwing out ideas I know as a concept it may not work, but if we play around with the possibilities surly there's something that might work better?
Totally get the ban thing
We'd all be afraid to post on here incase we lost our privileged!!!

[Rockerman]

Good point
It just seemed the easiest way to create some sort of database without clients giving away personal information
I know most clients have no interest in being on the Forum, but if they had to register on E.I anyway for at least a little visibility to the girls, then the girls could see there history of meeting others,
I'm only throwing out ideas I know as a concept it may not work, but if we play around with the possibilities surly there's something that might work better?
Totally get the ban thing
We'd all be afraid to post on here incase we lost our privileged!!!

Yeah understand what you're saying, but this is an advertising company first and foremost. The girls have their profiles up with their phone numbers available to see. Guys see the phone number and they can call.

If you shut the profiles down to just official members logging in the girls would be finished.

A lot of punters are just casual. This is why "opt out" girls can still make it...hey I met a few in my time also.

Unless legalised nothing will change and that's the way it is. My country is a laughing stock...they don't give a fuck.