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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSavannah View Post
    I wouldn't doubt that the article was written by Amber's lawyers who have been humiliating Johnny's witnesses since the trial started by discrediting their scientific and professional judgment by saying that they are simply paid by Johnny or are his fans. Too futile a move that only proves she ran out of defense.
    Seriously, I think when you watch the trial everything is pretty clear.
    The trial resumes next week.
    You wouldn’t doubt that the article was written by ambers lawyers. That’s hearsay Savannah. The article was written by a barrister who specialises in violence against women and girls as you well know having read the article. So, everyone is lying including this barrister just to get at Johnny Depp.

    Even though all this Barrister stated in her article was the outcome of the British Trial which found that Depp was a wife beater who assaulted his wife at least 11 times. She also gave her view on the supporters of depp who ignore facts and evidence and instead rely on TiKTok for information on the case. She also pointed out the toxic campaign spearheaded by Depps Fans which is running on twitter and other social media platforms which many other papers have reported on, the worst content reported as being on TikTok where videos have been removed for sharing disinformation and mocking testimony of assault and sexual assault.

    https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/c...32a8b456e.html

    Johnny’s witnesses being humiliated you claim, You have multiple posts humiliating a proven victim of assault and sexual assault on this very thread. 2 of the posts being on the same page you posted on.
    You really have proven the barristers point who wrote the article tbf with your post.
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    Another good article about Depps fans and their use of tiktok. The article helps debunk the misinformation they spread.

    Amber Heard v Johnny Depp’ has turned into trial by TikTok – and we’re all the worse for it


    Screaming fans have spread deranged rumours and mocked accusations of abuse that should be taken seriously.
    Say what you like about Amber Heard – no, seriously, do. You can say that the actor took a bump of cocaine while on the stand during one of the most high-profile defamation cases of the century. You can say she stole lines from The Talented Mr Ripley and recited them in court while testifying about her relationship with fellow actor Johnny Depp. On social media, you can say both of these baseless, untrue things, and many others besides.

    In the past week, both of these unfounded claims have been spreading faster than wildfire. For those of you unfamiliar with the saga of Depp and Heard, bear with me: in June 2018, Depp sued News Group Newspapers – the company that publishes the Sun – after the paper alleged he was a “wife beater”. Later that year, Heard published an op-ed about sexual violence in the Washington Post (Depp wasn’t mentioned in the piece). Depp lost his libel battle against the Sun in London’s high court in November 2020, after the judge found the majority of alleged assaults made by Depp against Heard were “proved to the civil standard” (on the balance of probabilities). He is now suing Heard, for defamation over her op-ed in the Washington Post.

    The internet has consequently turned feral. It is ironic that a defamation trial could prompt so much flagrant defamation. Constantly rolling cameras in the courtroom have allowed a complicated, intimate case to play out like a spectator sport. Endless clips of the trial have been hashed and rehashed on social media platforms for a braying audience. On social media, people are saying whatever they like about Depp and Heard, with disturbing, unhinged results.

    One recent TikTok trend involved people making aroused facial expressions over an audio clip of Heard testifying about her alleged sexual assault by Depp (the audio clip has since been removed from the site). Another saw TikTokers acting out Heard’s abuse testimony, twisting and turning like pantomime actors in an attempt to point out supposed inconsistencies in her account.

    Regardless of whether an individual believes Heard’s testimony, they should believe that nothing good can come from minimising and mocking descriptions of abuse. The trial has made it clearer than ever that a culture of toxic fandom has poisoned our brains. On Etsy, fans can buy “Justice for Johnny” T-shirts and “Fuck Amber Heard” mugs. On social media, you are either Team Depp or Team Heard; very few people seem to be on the side of the justice system. Why wait to see what the judge and jury have to say, when you can easily pick a side from the comfort of your own home?

    For many, the case has become a source of comedy. On TikTok, cry-laughing emojis abound on courtroom clips with titles such as “Funniest witness moments so far” and “Johnny Depp funny moments part 3”. One user put a filter on footage of Heard’s testimony so that her nose protruded like Pinocchio’s. On YouTube, anyone and everyone is weighing in: a video entitled “Woodworker Attorney DEBUNKS Amber Heard’s ‘Broken Bed’ Testimony!” has more than 277,000 views. News websites have repeated unfounded claims in uncritical articles with hands-off headlines like “Viewers notice …” and “People are saying …”.

    Is it asking too much that we treat a sombre issue sombrely? That we don’t turn a serious and sensitive trial into content for our feeds? In an ideal world, even the most salacious celebrity court case would be covered in a dignified, respectful manner. Even the biggest, most ardent, most invested fan would put aside their hero worship while a jury deliberates if their idol sexually assaulted a woman with a liquor bottle.

    But fandom has never drawn the line at the courthouse door, and we are all poorer for it. Screaming fans have been filmed throwing gifts through Depp’s car windows as he departed from the Virginia courtroom. No trial should be treated like a concert or a meet-and-greet, and a court case should never be an opportunity to wave a homemade sign in a celebrity’s face.

    Fans need to be aware that their own behaviour around celebrity trials is under scrutiny. In theory, anyone can be sued for libel for what they write on social media (though in practice, the cases we read about involve tweets from those with high public profiles, such as TV doctors, rightwing provocateurs, and comedians). Even without the threat of a lawsuit, people need to be far more careful about what they post online. Fans may believe wholeheartedly that their idols are innocent, but serious accusations need to be taken seriously. Descriptions of abuse shouldn’t be made into jaunty comedy clips. Otherwise, we risk creating a world where people turn to TikTok videos for the final word on the truth, instead of the courts.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...al-tiktok-fans
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSarahBarra View Post
    Look, everyone and the kitchen sink knows you’re a troll but sure…

    Yeah, TikTok is great. I hadn’t really appreciated it fully until this trial, but it’s makes everything so easy to dig through. Hundreds (thousands?) of lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists, body language experts, victims of domestic abuse, and acting coaches, all having a field day posting videos edited and spliced into the timeline. Then, so as not to be a fool, put them back in context and fact check. Which is easy to do because, again, all of all the other tiktockers, and because everyone has access to all of the evidence so far admitted to court as it’s up on the Virginia court page, and everyone has access to all of the other interviews celebrities to do with the case have ever given because of the internet. It’s really not hard to avoid the chaff. I don’t think a thing doing the rounds on tictok it’s immediately a bad thing. It’s only a bad thing when that overwhelmingly becomes a work of fiction and all one has is pieces taken entirely out of context to destroy another person, and that isn’t happening.

    For example: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLvuXjcY/?k=1

    Gotta love it.


    Those Tiktok videos don't link well here so here's the general jist of Amber Heard's charity scam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnFulfilledScott View Post
    Those Tiktok videos don't link well here so here's the general jist of Amber Heard's charity scam.



    Ouch

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    I would just like to say that I do not beloeve it is right for people to be pre-judging the outcome of what is an ongoing court case.
    With respect I don't believe it reflects well on any of you. And I am particularly surprised at Savannah's posts in this thread.
    Is it any wonder that victims of abuse are reluctant to come forward when people are so willing to rush to make their own conclusions ahead of the court actually hearing the case.
    What also surprises me here is that another court has previously found against Depp in the UK.. so I simply do not understand why it is that Amber Heard is the one taking most of the hits here in this thread. Anyway.. that's me done on the subject. I imagine I will be enlightened by those who know better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StLune View Post
    I would just like to say that I do not beloeve it is right for people to be pre-judging the outcome of what is an ongoing court case.
    With respect I don't believe it reflects well on any of you. And I am particularly surprised at Savannah's posts in this thread.
    Is it any wonder that victims of abuse are reluctant to come forward when people are so willing to rush to make their own conclusions ahead of the court actually hearing the case.
    What also surprises me here is that another court has previously found against Depp in the UK.. so I simply do not understand why it is that Amber Heard is the one taking most of the hits here in this thread. Anyway.. that's me done on the subject. I imagine I will be enlightened by those who know better...
    It's two Hollywood celebrities in court mate. You are aware of showbiz gossip...it sort of goes with the territory.

    She comes across as insincere to me and not a particularly nice person. I don't think it is the same as a random unknown victim of domestic abuse.

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    I also think they were violent to one an other. It's pretty clear they are both on the dysfunction side. I don't think she's a poor, battered housewife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StLune View Post
    I would just like to say that I do not beloeve it is right for people to be pre-judging the outcome of what is an ongoing court case.
    With respect I don't believe it reflects well on any of you. And I am particularly surprised at Savannah's posts in this thread.
    Is it any wonder that victims of abuse are reluctant to come forward when people are so willing to rush to make their own conclusions ahead of the court actually hearing the case.
    What also surprises me here is that another court has previously found against Depp in the UK.. so I simply do not understand why it is that Amber Heard is the one taking most of the hits here in this thread. Anyway.. that's me done on the subject. I imagine I will be enlightened by those who know better...
    The lawsuit is for defamation, basically Johnny accuses Amber of defamation alleging that not only is it a lie, but he is the one who suffered mistreatment.
    (Maybe there was mistreatment on both sides)

    Regarding the trial in the UK, Johnny was not guilty, they reached a financial settlement, which I find a bit suspicious on Amber's part.

    Only she has the benefit of the doubt? A bit unfair

    Have you listened to the audio where she acknowledges that she has hit him? When he says that he is a victim of abuse and she tells him that no one will believe him? When she says "tell them, let's see whose side they are on"?

    My opinion is based on the scientific evidence and the testimonies of witnesses, the police who were at the scene, psychologists and psychiatrists.
    I take the side that seems to me the most truthful and coherent, I am sorry that I am not on her side.

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    I made a broad point and have zero interest in getting bogged down in this topic.
    However I have to ask you Savannah why you say maybe there was mistreatment on both sides when the High Court in London found that Depp physically assaulted Heard on multiple occasions?
    Genuine question btw. I accept you are weighing up the evidence and forming your own view.
    You seem certain that she abused him based on the tape you refer to plus the testimony of others... but less certain that ge abused her when the High Court in London has already found that he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StLune View Post
    I made a broad point and have zero interest in getting bogged down in this topic.
    However I have to ask you Savannah why you say maybe there was mistreatment on both sides when the High Court in London found that Depp physically assaulted Heard on multiple occasions?
    Genuine question btw. I accept you are weighing up the evidence and forming your own view.
    You seem certain that she abused him based on the tape you refer to plus the testimony of others... but less certain that ge abused her when the High Court in London has already found that he did.
    I did not follow that trial, if I am honest, but to this day, there is no evidence or witnesses of such mistreatment (which is shocking) and if there are any on his part.
    The photos themselves are contradicted hours later with other photos without those marks.... I don't know, it's all questionable to say the least.
    Amber's personal nurse never left a report of physical injuries and as she said at trial, it would have been her obligation to do so.
    It's trial hours, hours.

    That being said, I step off the stage, I only moderate and annoy , I don't give my opinion.

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