Did he invite him to annex Crimea aswell?Originally Posted by EdwardElizabethHitler
or did Putin rudely send in troops uninvited
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Did he invite him to annex Crimea aswell?
or did Putin rudely send in troops uninvited
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...fort-1.4827390
Known as brutal enforcers, a "death squad" and fearsome fighters: the Kadyrovtsy have "officially" entered Ukraine on the Russian side.Chechen ‘wild card’ Ramzan Kadyrov joins Russian war effort by Sam Jones, Max Seddon & John Paul Rathbone
Warlord’s men have reputation as brutal fighters but they also bring disadvantages
March 15 2022
Russia’s faltering war effort in Ukraine has a new face.
Garbed in combat fatigues, arm stretched out over a military map in a darkened room, Chechnya’s warlord-leader Ramzan Kadyrov announced via his Telegram channel on Sunday that he had personally joined the Russian campaign.
A loyalist of Russian president Vladimir Putin and deft user of social media, Kadyrov posted videos on Sunday that appeared to show him commanding a Chechen special forces division, with his right-hand man Adam Delimkhanov leading another unit and other fighters forcing Ukrainian prisoners of war to shout Chechen slogans.
“The other day we were about 20km from you Kyiv Nazis and now we are even closer,” he wrote – claiming to be close to Hostomel airport, just north of Ukraine’s capital. “You can relax for a minute, because you won’t have to look for us – we’ll find you. Oh, you don’t have long left. It’s better you surrender and stand alongside us [. . .]or your end will be at hand.”
The Financial Times was not able to independently confirm the authenticity of the videos. Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s spokesman, on Monday said the Kremlin had “no data” on whether Kadyrov actually was in Ukraine.
Chechen forces have, however, been an integral part of the Kremlin’s military plan from the start. Western intelligence officials told the FT that Chechen hit squads were key to the failed plan to assassinate Ukraine’s political leadership in the first 48 hours of the invasion. For the past three weeks, at least three Chechen tactical formations have been fighting in the country.
Though the units have had mixed success in operations around the country, with Chechen forces near Kyiv repeatedly held back by Ukrainians, Kadyrov’s apparent personal entry this weekend is a signal that the 45-year-old intends Chechens to play a greater role in Russia’s conflict.
Rallying forces
Nearly three weeks into the war, Moscow’s invasion has been a military debacle, and efforts are under way to try to regain the initiative and rally Russian forces, which continue to suffer heavy losses, despite their vastly superior firepower and numbers.
Kadyrov’s arrival – and the foregrounding of his Chechen troops in media coverage as a result – may play as much of a psychological role in helping Moscow’s campaign as it will in boosting Russian firepower.
“The Chechens have established a reputation as tough and brutal fighters,” said Emil Aslan, a Caucasian specialist and professor in the department of security studies at Charles University in Prague. “Deploying Chechen fighters has a big psychological impact.”
An increased Chechen presence is unlikely to do anything to address the fundamental problems with Russia’s campaign to date, analysts said. Until the Kremlin is better able to co-ordinate and mass its forces, the stalemate on the ground is likely to persist, regardless of where it replenishes its frontline fighters from. Besides Chechens, Russian authorities have said they are ready to welcome fighters from Syria, and the Central African Republic, where Russian forces have been themselves active in recent years.
The thickly bearded Kadyrov has run his mostly Muslim republic in the Caucasus Mountains as a personal fiefdom since his warlord father Akhmat-Khadzhi was assassinated in 2004. He commands the Kadyrovtsy, a 25,000-strong militia that has been credibly accused of widespread abduction, torture and extrajudicial killings. Its fighters helped to crush the second of two Chechen separatist wars in 2009, helped suppress a domestic Islamist insurgency while fighting on the side of separatist forces in eastern Ukraine and regime troops in Syria.
“These are fighters who have been used by Kadyrov to go after insurgents in Chechnya and also after the families of insurgents,” said Aslan. “If the Russians are serious about taking over Ukraine, and choking resistance, then having these ‘dirty’ warriors gives them cover to do things and say ‘it was these crazy savage people from the Caucasus.’”
Distant war
Kadyrov claims 10,000 Chechens are being deployed to fight in Ukraine – and has threatened to bring as many as 70,000 to the fight. But most analysts believe the current number is likely to be far smaller, perhaps between 3,500 and 7,000, and fighting a distant war for the Kremlin may have less appeal for some Kadyrovtsy. Nevertheless, they represent a considerable fighting force for the Kremlin to draw upon.
“They represent a body of pretty determined fighters,” said Jack Watling, research fellow for land warfare at the UK’s Royal United Services Institute, who said Kadyrov’s forces had several advantages over regular Russian troops deployed to fight. “They are much more motivated fighters, available at a time when the Russians are desperately short of manpower.” They are also fighters more habituated to brutality, he said.
Moreover, thanks to years of generous funding from Moscow to prop up Kadyrov, they are also better equipped than most Russian soldiers.
With Russia forced to shift to besieging major cities, Chechen fighters in particular may be a valuable potential vanguard. The three units reported to be in Ukraine are the “Akhmad Kadyrov” Special Motorised Regiment of the National Guard, Rosgvardiya’s 249th Separate Special Motorised Battalion “Yug”, and the Defence Ministry’s Special Battalion “Vostok”.
But the line between reputation and reality is also a thin one. Chechens have not had to deal with a conventional adversary, as equally motivated as they are, for a very long time, said Watling. “This is a fight for which they lack experience.”
Image issues
Indeed, some question whether Kadyrov’s grizzled image has much martial substance behind it. In late February he addressed 12,000 Kadyrovtsy at a rally in the Chechen capital Grozny to promise support for Putin’s war. He looked every inch the Caucasian strongman, except his chunky combat boots were from Prada’s 2019 season, retailing for just over $1,500.
According to Ukrainian defence reports, Chechen fighters have had mixed successes in Ukraine, and have been beaten back north of Kyiv.
Russia’s conventional army is likely to be wary of them, according to western officials and analysts. Russia analysts and western officials said Kadyrov considered himself answerable to Putin alone, not the Kremlin’s generals or Russia’s powerful intelligence apparatus. Many in Russia’s senior echelons recall that Kadyrov’s father originally fought against them in the first Chechen war, only swapping sides in 2000.
“Kadyrov and the Chechens are a wild card for the Russian armed forces as they do not control Kadyrov,” said one European defence official. – Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2022
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EdwardElizabethHitler (16-03-22)
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Look up Stepan Bandera and Oliver Stones recent doc "Ukraine on fire" it will give context to the current violence.. look up the meaning of the meaning of the black and red striped flag popular at protests there. There are more than just Russian unsavoury actors in Ukraine..
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whats your point?
there is far right elements in lots of countries
always have been,even here
there was nazi parties in england and america during WWII
didn't stop them kicking the shit out of nazi germany
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Oswald Mosley wasn't honoured by any sitting PM in the UK was he?
You obviously haven't a clue to make the comparisons you did..the Avoz neo Nazi's were incorporated into the Ukraine army in the East to repel the Russians this past few years..their deputy head, a known Nazi is police chief in their capital. These are the types of accomodations that have kept Ukraine out the EU for years, their Nazi connections. There are many,many more.
I am glad we are welcoming their innocent refugees with open arms and I hope we learn to treat all the worlds innocent refugees the same.
It's a mistake to ignore the sins of their government though with fast tracking EU applications ect..
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and they are not the ruling power in the Ukrainian parliament either,are they?
in fact, Ukrainian far-right parties have not been as successful in comparison with their Western European counterparts
AfD had become the biggest opposition party in germany, and in spain Vox had become the third largest force in parliament as per 2019
the five countries in europe with the highest number of votes for far right in recent years have been Hungary,austria,switzerland
denmark and belgium and no ones invading them
so it really doesn't necessitate an invasion from Russia to sort out an internal Ukrainian issue.
and to even allude that this anti nazi rhetoric is the actual reason russia is in the Ukraine is ridiculous
and propaganda swallowing
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It's the level of influence and infiltration Nazi's have achieved in Ukraine and the compromises made to accommodate/placate them, those are the some of the reasons EU access has been so slow and my issue is the disparity with how Ukraine is now being treated compared to other countries that will bring problems to the EUs door later on.
Why are they passing votes to speed up the Ukraine joining when previous Nazi/far right concerns haven't been met? Why do Syrian and Afghan refugees live like dogs in direct provision whilst Ukrainians will walk in and have full access?
I sincerely hope this is indicative of a wholesale change to our asylum process where all are treated as we will treat the Ukrainians.
I agree with you that Putin's "Nazi state" thing is only a pretence for an invasion that wasn't justified, but the level of far right influence was enough to slow down EU integration and that won't have gone away when this ends.
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I have refused, for good reason. to focus on Nazis, Neo-Nazis, Far-Right etc. The reason being twofold: These elements are on both sides and atrocities are atrocities. irrespective of who commits them. But since there is persistent crying, I'll relent.
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https://www.jpost.com/international/article-701044What is the Wagner Group, Russia’s mercenary organisation?
Supposedly active in Ukraine, it has been accused of human-rights abuses and has ties to the Kremlin
Mar 7 2022
Russia massed around 190,000 troops on Ukraine’s border before it invaded. But there may be other, more shadowy Russian forces fighting there. According to a report in the Times on February 28th, more than 400 mercenaries belonging to Russia’s Wagner Group have been sent to Kyiv to assassinate Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president. American officials say they have seen some indication of Wagner’s involvement in the war. Those reports have not been confirmed, but Wagner’s presence would not be a surprise. For years Ukraine has accused the private military organisation, which appears to have close ties to the Kremlin, of fighting in Luhansk and Donetsk, the disputed parts of eastern Ukraine. The mercenaries, who have also reportedly fought in both northern and sub-Saharan Africa, have been accused of torture, rape and extrajudicial killings. What is the Wagner Group, and how is it linked to the Russian state?
“From a legal perspective, Wagner doesn’t exist,” says Sorcha MacLeod, who heads the un’s working group on the use of mercenaries. Instead of a single entity, Wagner is a network of companies and groups. According to a European Union regulation last December, implementing sanctions against the group and certain people, it was founded by Dmitry Utkin, a former Russian soldier adorned with Nazi tattoos. It was reportedly named after Hitler’s favourite composer. In December 2016 Mr Utkin was photographed alongside Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, at a Kremlin event, hinting at the group’s powerful ties. Wagner is thought to be funded by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman who is also alleged to run the Internet Research Agency, Russia’s “troll farm”. The Russian armed forces work closely with the group, reportedly providing it with munitions and transport aircraft. The head of Ukraine’s security services has likened Wagner to “a private army of Putin”.
Since emerging in Ukraine in 2014, Wagner-linked operatives have surfaced in many places where Russia has an interest. They were active in Syria and Libya, and more recently have been seen in the Central African Republic (car) and Mali. “Russia is engaging in a proxy war with plausible deniability,” Ms MacLeod says. Using mercenaries instead of its own troops allows Russia to downplay its casualties. It also removes a layer of accountability: unlike soldiers, mercenaries are very hard to identify. It is “almost impossible to hold them to account”, says Ms MacLeod. Wagner mercenaries have been accused of human-rights abuses, and journalists investigating Wagner have been killed. For Mr Prigozhin, the work may be lucrative. Firms linked to him and Wagner have taken control of oil fields in Syria and diamond mines in car.
Russia is not the only country to use mercenaries. Turkish groups, for example, are thought to operate in Libya. And some think Wagner’s scale and political ties may be greatly exaggerated: the notion of a powerful, shadowy Russian organisation helps Mr Putin to instil fear. Indeed, Wagner’s mercenaries have often been unsuccessful. They pulled out of Mozambique in 2019 after jihadists started beheading them. And they fought on the losing side in Libya’s civil war.
Some people in the countries where Wagner operates are grateful for the support. In Mali, where the ruling junta is thought to pay Wagner $10m a month, people hope they will be more helpful at achieving stability than French troops were. But if Wagner’s men are in Ukraine, where Ms MacLeod and her team are “monitoring the situation”, few people will be glad of their presence.
What is the Wagner mercenary group?
For years, Ukraine has accused the private military organization, which appears to have close ties to the Kremlin, of fighting in Luhansk and Donetsk, the besieged country's disputed regions.
MARCH 11, 2022
There is very little evidence of the existence of an actual, unified entity called the "Wagner Group." Reports claim the elusive group first emerged in Ukraine in 2014 during the Crimean conflict. After that, it is believed the mercenary group fought in Syria as Russia sought to help President Bashar Assad's regime.
Where does the Wagner Group operate?
For years, Ukraine has accused the private military organization, which appears to have close ties to the Kremlin, of fighting in Luhansk and Donetsk, the disputed parts of eastern Ukraine.
The mercenaries, who have also reportedly fought in both northern and sub-Saharan Africa, have been accused of torture, rape and extrajudicial killings.
The group has also been sighted in other conflicted areas, reportedly arriving in Mali after a 2020 coup d’etat isolated the West African country from the world's democratic countries.
As Russia invades Ukraine, the Kremlin is pushing to enhance its influence worldwide, and private military groups like Wagner offer an undeniably effective way to advance those goals.
Since 2016, the Russian mercenary footprint has grown from four nations to a total of 28, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. Eighteen of those are located in Africa.
Who created the group of mercenaries?
According to a European Union regulation last December which worked to implement sanctions against the group and its members, it was founded by Dmitry Utkin, a former Russian soldier, who is adorned with Nazi tattoos.
The group was reportedly named after Hitler’s favorite composer, Richard Wagner. In December 2016, Utkin was seen together with Russian President Vladimir Putin at an event sponsored by the Kremlin, hinting at the group’s powerful ties within Russia.
Wagner is thought to be funded by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman who is also alleged to run the Internet Research Agency, Russia’s “troll farm.”
According to the US Treasury, Prigozhin "is the Russian financier of the Internet Research Agency (IRA), which he utilizes to operate global influence operations.
"In early 2021, Prigozhin continued to coordinate messages in an attempt to spread disinformation about the United States government. His vast global network spreads false narratives online."
According to the Treasury, Prigozhin's influence network is reportedly supporting the Russian government's information warfare operations within Ukraine and Russia.
How much do we really know?
What little information is available about the Wagner network has been painstakingly pieced together by investigative journalists, researchers, UN and government reports, and through corporate documents obtained by the Dossier Center, a London-based investigative outfit funded by the exiled Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
Russian reporters, who have provided some of the most detailed information about the group, have done so at great personal risk.
In 2018, a team of Russian journalists who went to to the Central African Republic to report Wagner activities there were killed in what is suspected to have been a planned elimination.
Reporter Maxim Borodin, who reported on the deaths of Wagner fighters in Syria in 2018, died that same year after falling from the balcony of his apartment. Others have been threatened and harassed.
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1600 nukes! It was in Ukraine! And they all gone to Russia under Budapest memorandum. Fuck... It could be best protection from attacking Ukraine at this moment...
And Budapest memorandum should protect from any attack from any country! And western side doing almost nothing! How long they (Ukrainians) can fight back?
Take me to the moon babe...
: they would’ve been long ago Sold or pilfered to unsavory ( terrorist ) characters !
At the time Ukraine was in No position to protect / defend such an arsenal .
Even with this horrid war - the alternative imo would’ve been worse xx
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