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    Ukraine says Russian ship carrying Ukrainian grain detained by Turkey

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    Ukrainian Ombudsman for Human Rights Lyudmyla Denisova has admitted that horror stories about Russian troops raping Ukrainian women and children were made up Before dismissal, Denisova was questioned, after European leaders began to doubt the narrative on Ukrainian social media

    https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-de...claims-1711680
    On Tuesday, the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, removed Lyudmila Denisova, the parliament's commissioner for human rights, from her post, according to Ukrainska Pravda. No new appointment has been made to fill the role.
    The move to dismiss Denisova came after outrage about the wording used in public reports about alleged sexual assaults committed by Russians, as well as the alleged dissemination in those reports of unverified information. Despite accusations from Ukraine, the Kremlin has repeatedly denied that Russian soldiers have committed war crimes or sexual assaults during the invasion.

    Last week, Ukrainian media outlets and journalists signed an open letter in which they requested that reports concerning rape and sexual assault be "published with caution," particularly when involving children, according to an English translation of the letter.

    The open letter also stated that "it is important to understand that sexual crimes during war are an instrument of genocide, an instrument of waging war without rules, but they cannot serve as illustrative material to inflame the emotions of the audience."


    The letter from the journalists indicated how reports from Denisova went into great detail about the alleged rape of children, some as young as 6 months old, by Russians.
    The letter also criticized Denisova for including details of cases that the journalists said were unverified and asked her to "check the facts before publication" and "disclose only information for which there is sufficient evidence."

    The letter went on to say that the information put out by Denisova's office is regarded as factual by the media, and is then used in articles and in speeches by public figures.

    According to the online Ukrinform news platform, one member of the Ukrainian parliament, Pavlo Frolov, provided a number of reasons why Denisova was removed, including "the numerous details of 'unnatural sexual offenses' and child sexual abuses in the occupied territories, which were unsupported by evidence and only harmed Ukraine."
    He also stated that other reasons for her removal from her post included "repeated failure to perform her duties related to the establishment of humanitarian corridors" as well as "counteracting the deportation of adults and children from the occupied territories."
    Ukrainska Pravda also reported that more than 230 of the 450 members of the legislative body voted in favor of removing Denisova.
    It's unclear who will take over the post at this time.
    Newsweek reached out to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and the office of the Ukrainian commissioner for human rights for comment.
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    Good to see they are being honest in their investigation of war crimes
    means you can trust their findings when they do move forward with prosecutions

    Ukrainska Pravda stressed that the article about Denisova “does not call into question the fact that Russians have committed rape in Ukraine.”
    But false stories about rape, they wrote, “only play into the hands of the enemy.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by joggon View Post
    Ukrainian Ombudsman for Human Rights Lyudmyla Denisova has admitted that horror stories about Russian troops raping Ukrainian women and children were made up Before dismissal, Denisova was questioned, after European leaders began to doubt the narrative on Ukrainian social media

    https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-de...claims-1711680
    On Tuesday, the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, removed Lyudmila Denisova, the parliament's commissioner for human rights, from her post, according to Ukrainska Pravda. No new appointment has been made to fill the role.
    The move to dismiss Denisova came after outrage about the wording used in public reports about alleged sexual assaults committed by Russians, as well as the alleged dissemination in those reports of unverified information. Despite accusations from Ukraine, the Kremlin has repeatedly denied that Russian soldiers have committed war crimes or sexual assaults during the invasion.

    Last week, Ukrainian media outlets and journalists signed an open letter in which they requested that reports concerning rape and sexual assault be "published with caution," particularly when involving children, according to an English translation of the letter.

    The open letter also stated that "it is important to understand that sexual crimes during war are an instrument of genocide, an instrument of waging war without rules, but they cannot serve as illustrative material to inflame the emotions of the audience."


    The letter from the journalists indicated how reports from Denisova went into great detail about the alleged rape of children, some as young as 6 months old, by Russians.
    The letter also criticized Denisova for including details of cases that the journalists said were unverified and asked her to "check the facts before publication" and "disclose only information for which there is sufficient evidence."

    The letter went on to say that the information put out by Denisova's office is regarded as factual by the media, and is then used in articles and in speeches by public figures.

    According to the online Ukrinform news platform, one member of the Ukrainian parliament, Pavlo Frolov, provided a number of reasons why Denisova was removed, including "the numerous details of 'unnatural sexual offenses' and child sexual abuses in the occupied territories, which were unsupported by evidence and only harmed Ukraine."
    He also stated that other reasons for her removal from her post included "repeated failure to perform her duties related to the establishment of humanitarian corridors" as well as "counteracting the deportation of adults and children from the occupied territories."
    Ukrainska Pravda also reported that more than 230 of the 450 members of the legislative body voted in favor of removing Denisova.
    It's unclear who will take over the post at this time.
    Newsweek reached out to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and the office of the Ukrainian commissioner for human rights for comment.
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    The Ukrainians wage a good pr war...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickrogers View Post
    The Ukrainians wage a good pr war...
    if thats all they were interested in then they wouldn't be trying
    to separate the truth from the lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forceuser View Post
    if thats all they were interested in then they wouldn't be trying
    to separate the truth from the lies
    It's good to be seen to be trying to separate fact from fiction, thankfully for them ppl forget that it was Ukraine that put out the fiction first. Very cute those guys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickrogers View Post
    It's good to be seen to be trying to separate fact from fiction, thankfully for them ppl forget that it was Ukraine that put out the fiction first. Very cute those guys..
    If ppl forget,then how are are we discussing it?
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    Ukraine needs a victory before autumn to silence Western doubters


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forceuser View Post
    Ukraine needs a victory before autumn to silence Western doubters


    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world...out&li=BBr5HCU
    So does Russia.

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