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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalSpirit View Post
    We went through exactly what he said. He did not say that, in fact he said almost the exact opposite - that there would be big trouble if diplomatic solutions weren't arranged. I have nothing further to add on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    Kicking is one thing, as is hand-to-hand or exchanging small-arms fire. Someone firing a missile from miles away or attacking you from a warplane is another.
    Look at Afghanistan, Syria... Or other countries who were in war with USA. And now tell me more how these countries give up? Newest example is Afghanistan... Bloody pure country without economy, unless drugs biggest export they can produce... After 20 years of bombing USA run out same like Russia before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    Thank for this explains along, so what do people think Putin's intentions are? Could it be to take over Moldova Belarus and maybe other countries with a large Russian speaking population?
    Nobody really knows his intentions unfortunately. Belarus is alerady a Russian puppet state they've even recently passed a law which will allow Russia to place nuclear weapons on Belarusian soil. Far as I'm aware Russia has had troops in Moldova for several decades. Putin will take Ukraine the question is will he stop there or will push on and directly challenge NATO by invading a NATO member state.

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    Europe is only causing Europe problems because Putin doesn't care about sanctions.
    To Putin Ukraine is part of Russia.
    It's a war we can't afford on any level and one we will not win.
    I think we should mind our own business.

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    I think Putin has overreached. He is unstable and he is a threat to his own people now. The Russian people do not support this war. Sanctions will help to bring him down. And Ukranian resistance will be fierce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    Europe is only causing Europe problems because Putin doesn't care about sanctions.
    To Putin Ukraine is part of Russia.
    It's a war we can't afford on any level and one we will not win.
    I think we should mind our own business.
    You're correct, Putin doesn't care about sanctions as they won't effect him personally one iota. He's made billions already from his time in office. He's also a tough guy from behind his desk , he won't be going into battle but will send others without hesitation.

    I believe he's doing this because he's a megalomaniac, he wants to go down in history as being the president that reunified the USSR. I don't think the average Russian citizens support him in this latest debacle .

    Ireland is a neutral country, even if we wanted to help Ukraine militarily we just don't have the capability.

    If the Brits decided to invade us again what would you think about other countries standing by and not helping?

    It's too late now but I think Nato should have sent in a couple of hundred thousand troops into the
    Ukraine weeks ago. It would have made that little bully Putin think twice about invading. He has a caveman mentality, he has taken Nato's indecisiveness as a sign of weakness and thinks there won't be any repercussions.

    Is what's happening in the Ukraine a reason to start WW3 ? That's a question that can only be answered with hindsight unfortunately. Let's hope someone assassinates yer man ASAP!! Problem solved...

    My thoughts are with the people of the Ukraine, as usual it's the ordinary people that will suffer the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gthomas View Post
    So it happened... War in Ukraine.
    Motherfucker Putin! Hope he's goes to hell
    I wish hell existed for individuals like Putin but it doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalSpirit View Post
    I like his domestic policies such as self-sufficiency of Russia, fit and healthy citizens, limited migration with a preference for christians, traditional family, environmental and conservation causes, sports and stuff like that. I also admire how he doesn't bow to western pressures especially from the United States. How he conducts himself and speaks also, it is no wonder that Putin has had the overwhelming support of Russia for quite some time now. I always get a real sense of fairness and justice from him. His arguments continue to make a lot of sense. I have never seen Putin or his policies getting caught in hypocrisy while I see it all the time in the west.

    Here's an example of western media lies - I heard one correspondant on Talk Radio yesterday stating as fact that Putin is not even trying to claim correctness anymore, that it's some sort of perfunctory thing, like how some actual conqueror in history stating he was there to visit the architecture of the country or something like that. That argument is designed to give people who don't know anymore a horrific perception of Putin. Such a claim we know, if you have any knowledge of this at all, is objectively false, absolutely outrageous, and there have been loads and loads of falsehoods spread by western media over the years. Just outright, barefaced lies. Not to mention all the incompetence and inertia in the systems.

    Meanwhile I have never seen Putin being caught in a lie, despite all the things said about him noone can actually show where he has lied or been hypocritical. Of course this doesn't necessarily prove the west are wrong about everything and Putin is actually perfect, but when you have corruption and lies to the core non-stop from the west, you can't respect that.

    There's going to be a lot of lies and garbage coming from western media sources and politicians about Putin over the coming days and weeks and I won't believe a word of it. They have lied and broken trust too many times. I notice Daily Mail are already posting horrific images as if Putin was at fault for them and neglecting to show the images of the separatists vs central ukrainians who have been fighting a bloody war for many years now that Putin is trying to halt once and for all with this action.
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    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2022-02-24/

    France says Putin needs to understand NATO has nuclear weapons by Geert De Clercq
    February 24, 2022

    PARIS, Feb 24 (Reuters) - France's foreign minister said that Russian President Vladimir Putin, when making threats about using nuclear weapons, needs to understand that NATO, too, is a nuclear alliance, but he ruled out NATO-led military intervention to defend Ukraine.

    Asked whether Putin's threat of "such consequences that you have never encountered in your history" was tantamount to threatening Russian use nuclear weapons in the Ukraine conflict, Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said it was indeed understood as such.

    "Yes, I think that Vladimir Putin must also understand that the Atlantic alliance is a nuclear alliance. That is all I will say about this," Le Drian said on Thursday on French television TF1.

    Speaking from the Kremlin on Thursday morning as he launched the Russian military's invasion of Ukraine, Putin said Russia would respond instantly if any external force tried to interfere with its actions.

    "Whoever tries to hinder us, and even more so, to create threats to our country, to our people, should know that Russia's response will be immediate. And it will lead you to such consequences that you have never encountered in your history," the Russian president said.

    Western leaders on Thursday threatened unprecedented economic sanctions against Russia, but none have argued for a NATO-led military intervention to defend Ukraine.

    Ukraine is not a NATO ally, and the alliance is not treaty-bound to protect it.

    Asked why NATO member states -- which in past decades have intervened militarily in non-NATO countries such as Afghanistan, Libya and former Yugoslavia -- are refusing to put soldiers on the ground in Ukraine, Le Drian said: "That is not what the Ukrainians are asking us".

    He said Ukraine is asking for humanitarian and financial help, as well as military equipment, which the West has provided and will continue to provide.

    Asked what weaponry NATO could provide, Le Drian said "they have made a list and we are studying that list in order to meet their requests as soon as possible".

    Asked whether Europe and NATO could continue to rule out a military response despite the presence of Russian soldiers in Ukraine and Putin's threat of nuclear apocalypse, Le Drian said sanctions will be more efficient.

    "Strangling Russia economically and financially will in the long run be stronger than any intervention," the foreign minister said.
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