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    The 'Tally' and 'Afgan' are army slang from Taliban and Afghanistan. The British Army official withdrawal from Afghanistan was 2014.

    Here's the short version of the Taliban.

    The Taliban came about after the Russian withdrawal from the country. Afghanistan was divided in areas that were controlled by rival warlords who were formally mujahideen fighting against the USSR. These warlords fought among each other and there was no sense of a formal Afghan national identity.

    There have been so many wars there the place is packed with guns. Some of these are old SMLE, 303, rifles dated back to WWII. The Afghan's are also great gunsmiths and made many copies of guns. If you can imagine the old wild west, that's Afghan.


    Afghanistan is connected by a network of roads. Everything, has to be trucked across the country from one end to the other. When trucks drove though the warlord's area they were forced to pay protection money to them to pass safety. The rates of this protection money went through the roof to the point it was crippling haulers.

    The roads were also a very dangerous places infestated by groups of armed men who hijacked frate and killed drivers.

    The truckers were loosely banded together in what we would call unions. The first, Tally came forward in Southern Afghan to offer security to these truckers as they travelled and it was the trucker uniond who banded together to pay them.

    These were seen to be religious men and many were formerly mujahideen. They won the support of the truckers and the Afghan people in the 90s. At the start you could even say they were the good guys and although were devoutly Muslim were not the extreme nut jobs that the Tally grew into.

    A element of even stricter religious leaders emerged at the top of the Tally. By this stage they grew too powerful. They eventually too key areas and cities. I can't remember the name of the place, but they slaughterd the people there when they took it. When the Tally took these areas, they imposed their strict form of religion and laws on the people. These Tally got more and more powerful and nobody could do anything to stop them.

    I know that they impose the wearing of beards. Men without them were punished. Women must be covered, because only their husbands are allowed to see them. They believe a woman's beauty is in her eyes. A woman isn't permitted to go out alone. She is the property of her father and then the property of her husband. When a husband wants sex his wife isn't allowed to say no. Females are not allowed to lean to read or go to school,work or drive a car. Soldiers were not permitted to talk to a woman on the street, or stop and search her.


    People were beheaded and hands cut off for very little. I heard a story once, a young lad who was caught stealing and as an act of mercy the bastards drove a truck over his hand instead of cutting it off. Woman are stoned to death for very little as well.

    You may have realised that I don't really like the Taliban. I can't say half of how I feel about these bastards on here. God help ordinary Afghans who just want to live in peace and God help anyone who helped the ISAF forces when they were stationed in Afghan. It is against their laws for a Muslim to convert to be a Christian. I knew one Muslim family who had turned to be Christian and they risk being put to death if they are ever found out.

    I'm no expert, I just know a wee bit about them from work, but I'm sure there are a load of stuff on the internet about the Taliban.

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    This is well known ^^^^ , but thank you for recounting it .

    If you were over there and that’s the ‘Army Slang’ :: were you in the Irish armed forces ?

    : if it’s ‘army slang’ - Grand :: it hurts my ear , my eyes , and my heart to read ‘Tally’

    for Taliban — almost sounds like you’re ‘pally’ with the Tally ..



    Above , I was curious to see if you actually Know the Origin of yer pally Tally Taliban .

    Do you ?
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    Sorry : you’re NIre I think = UK army so ?
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    I'm not going to get into a debate here over words 😃

    The answer is no, I wasn't in the British Army, but I was a civilian who did something there and worked very closely with ISAF, forces in the North of the country. I worked with the army, but not for the army for over13 years. I also did some work with the US Army from time-to-time and even the Germans over there. My Job was very boring and I did most of it by talking to people and not shooting at them. I was in contacts with the Taliban, but I wasn't a front-line combat soldier and could have never did their job.

    I know everyday what I did and where I worked because I wake up every morning with the reminder: my right knee, the right side of my upper and right lower back are both nackerred, my neck and left ankle were also injuried. I lost the feeling in the first three fingers of my left hand, my hearing was damaged and I walk with a painful limp. I live with cronic pain every day and take enough pain killers to knock out a horse. I have striped the lining out of my stomach, because I took so much pain medication over the years. I was in hospital before Christmas with complications with my kidneys caused by my injuries. I take anti-depressants every day, have to sit facing the door in a restaurant and jump out of my skin every time I hear a loud noise, or a bang. I still dream about stuff when I get stressed. I don't drink, nor never drank alcohol because I knew I would end up with addiction problems, like so many of the people I worked with. I never smoked because most of the people I worked with were so stressed out that they were chain smokers.

    I was injuried over there when something really crap happened to me, but it was what it was. I felt sorry for myself for a long time and then picked my arse off the ground one day and tried to put my life back together.

    Anyone, who is real, or severed in the forces only carried home their bad memories of the past and their injuries home. That and the dust because no matter how many showers you take, dust and grit gets everywhere and you keep finding it in places that you never thought possible when you get home.

    You can't begin to understand how much I hate the Taliban and extremist Muslim's. If I put those feelings into words I would be banned off here and cause an out cry from all the keyboard warrior's.

    You maybe can understand that the Army isn't like the movies it has slang for stuff that isn't used in Hollywood.

    I still use this slang and take it for granted: a brew (tea), scoff (food) an egg banjo (an egg bap), a basher (is were you sleep), a wagon (was a land rover); my favourites are a shit show (something is really bad) and a cake and arse party (is when someone goes really wrong), I could go on because it's like another language. The Brits call the Taliban 'Tally', sorry I didn't pick the name.

    Thanks for commenting on my post.😃

    You yourself are a really intresting person. Did I read on your profile that you said that you came from the US?🇺🇸

    I worked with a load of Yanks during my career. I made great friends who are American and I still keep in contact with them.

    American people are often misunderstood, I have been invited to stay in North Carolina at a mates cabin, he found the light and is now a Chaplin. I love American and ended up studying American History at University.

    I would love to hear what you think of your nations history and What you think of the US role over there? What State do you come from and what food do you miss form back home. I had an aqured taste for US MRE meals because they were better than ours.

    Anyway, my battery 🔋 is nearly flat and I am off to get my supper (a brew and some scoff).😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Sorry : you’re NIre I think = UK army so ?
    You mean the British army
    Also the north of Ireland is not in Britain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukar View Post
    It cost them a fortune though.

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    Taliban reverse decision to re-open Afghanistan schools for girls

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD1_nq3ji_Y
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Oy .

    Let’s start back in 1993 when they First tried to blow up the World Trade Center !

    Or that Afghanistan had sheltered all them training camps for - how many years ?

    Let’s just mention 9 / 11 while we are at it , ney ?
    So your argument for a full blown invasion is the terrorists who planned the attack and attacked your country were in Afghanistan?.
    Genuine question for you the IRA attack mainland Britain killing innocent British civilians. The attack was planned from Ireland and the people who carried out the came back to Ireland. Would you Stephanie have supported a full on British invasion of Ireland in order to eliminate the terrorists who carried out the attack?.
    Surly if its ok to invade Afghanistan for them harbouring terrorists it only fair to invade Ireland for committing the same crime?.

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    [QUOTE=Stephanie;4215863] Special forces blocked UK resettlement applications from elite Afghan troops


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68332923
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    You know who else didn't let them in the US. So why only post a link about the British?.
    Please also have the courage to reply to the question I asked in my previous comment.
    Simple fact is your countries invasion then is no better that what they Taliban is doing now. Wonder how many Afghani people are still being held and tortured in the US base in Guantanamo bay?.
    Care to guess a number? What's the difference in the Taliban torturing people or successive US governments torturing people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    BBC front page News Today .


    Special forces blocked UK resettlement applications from elite Afghan troops

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68332923
    You seem to be stuck on repeat.
    Care to actually respond to questions asked? Or will you just repeat yourself again?

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