Ruhama claims punters are getting MORE violent due to watching porn!

[johnwin530]

That's the answer of a man who doesn't want to lose his good thing. It might be that you're the kind of man Ruhama fear.

I'll take an answer from the mods or GOSHH or a link to a balanced non biased point of view. My query is real.

I recommend reading this book , Revolting Prostitutes: The Fight for Sex Workers' Rights Paperback – 6 Nov 2018
by Molly Smith (Author), Juno Mac (Author)

Have a look at this report also , Loose Women or Lost Women? The re-emergence of the myth of ‘white slavery’ in contemporary discourses of ‘trafficking in women by Jo Doezema

http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/library/doezema1

And maybe this also ,Associations between sex work laws and sex workers’ health: A systematic review and meta-analysis of quantitative and qualitative studies

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedici...l.pmed.1002680

[johnwin530]

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/opi...9/?utm_source=


Is it anything to do with the fact that it is now a criminal activity? Attract different clientele?

Why is it only punters affected, surely everyone watches porn?

Porn has been widely available for the last 10 years, why is this only happening recently?

Is Ruhama an independent unbiased source of info on this topic?

Conflation of violence against sex workers and clients in this article also very misleading. Yes, clients can turn violent. But, since law changed, we've noted, statistically, most of increased violence related to robberies and other incidents with no connection to 'clients'.

As the late great Laura Lee often said, when a bank robbery takes places, we don't talk about the offender as a customer of the bank

whilst many offenders pose as clients to offend, most are not clients

[Meursault]

But how many dream of a rich husband that will give them everything they desire. It's a very thin line. That rich husband wants fantastic sex in return.

A feminist once said that marriage is just the prostitution to one man instead of many.

I think some marriages are. Not all though.

[MassiveFerguson]

Marriage is an institution.
Who wouldn't want to be in an institution?

[FetishCherry]

"I DIDN’T KNOW much about prostitution when I started working for Ruhama 17 years ago."

"The buyers should be under no illusion – the women despise them"

I hate my employer & I have an epic job.

I don't see the point in this statement TBH?

A very silly article indeed.

At least challenge my intellect, sad nun stooge.

You still know nothing.

The women despise them? Really? Yeah i despise my client for paying my bills , for keep going my bussines, without them i would work 8 hrs a day with 80 euro for the whole day . Yeah... she is right we despise them for making possible to have more then with a normal job. ))

[FetishCherry]

I know nothing about Ruhama only what I've read here. Surely they have an insight into how nasty prostitution is and it's dark side. They would know about trafficking and the desperation in life that makes a woman turn to prostitution.

No young girl has ever wanted to grow up and be a prostitute. It's desperate measures makes a woman turn to prostitution. If Ruhama believes that eradicating prostitution as best as they can and the end result is less trafficking and pimping in Ireland. How is that not a good thing.

Wrong!. Desperate means not other way. Always will be other ways! there are many desperate women and they will not choose to work as escorts. SO NO! In majority of cases is not the desperation but the attraction of having freedom , work for yourself, and make more money then in other job. Sound so bad this for u? And about young women who will never grow up wanted to be a prostitute wrong again. I shared din London with a young girl she was only 19yo and i was 35 and i was Very curious how she decided to be a an escort. and i asked her. 'HOw u decided to be an escort?' and she said :''' on my street was 2 other girls who worked as escorts , they had nice quality clothing, money , they bought an apartment , at 23 yo they had their own place and their own car and help their parents. I knew i will never have this with a normal job and i wanted to have as well... but at that time i was 16 so coldnt work ,,,i was so impatient to get 18 to can go in italy to work , where they used to go '' ''OK'' i said ' but u knew what u have to do to be an escort no? u knew u have to entertain gentlemens who might be same age with your father or grandfather and not always u will find them attractive etc, u was thinking about this?'' and she said :''' yes , i knew , but i said how they can to do, i will can as well, '' so is not out of desperation was a choice she made it having as 'example' that young girls from her street. When i was 16 i was playing with dolls , and virgin for sure i will never was thinking to be an escort, not even later at 30 lol, but this young people are very mature so not subestimate them. Some will use prostitution to pay for their studies as their parents cant afford it , some to have things they will cant have with a regular job at this age... i,m not saying is the Best option they can make, but is their choice, they are adults by law they can make choices , good or bad we all make choices in our life and is not right others to tell us how we should choose and whats best for us.

[FetishCherry]

It's a private matter without doubt. But maybe that organization looks at the root of why the woman is in that position.

Do you believe that a woman decides to be a sex worker as a beneficial career choice or there are circumstances in her life that are forcing her into the decision she has made.

If she is forced by circumstances, is it not good that there is an organization out there that has the women's backs.

What exactly do Ruhama do for a woman to take her away from prostitution. Are they actively helpful or what's the story.

The story is they telling stories to get their funds for 'protecting' us, but actively i never heard any fellow escort to be helped in any way by this Ruhama. ACtually i read once in a newspapers that Garda seized the money from 2 girls arrest them for pimping each other . The money went to the Ruhama to 'protect' us. Funny isnt it? She took the money put in her pocket and didnt care about anything. why she didnt stepped to say hey Garda stop this women maybe they have been forced by desperation to work u cant take their money who they made in desperation they are victims. no they didnt. They rob us not protect us. They come and tell me ' is not ok to pay for sex' ' not any woman will not choose voluntary ' or ' they are desperate' and more insulting i find when they say we are drog addicts or abused in childhood , Look i was not abused in my childhood i have wonderful parents, i,m not drug addict i dont smoke i dont drink i dont take drugs, i,m not desperate i have bachelor degree in economics and i worked all my life in normal jobs 10 hrs daily for shit wedges. I chose escorting as a better way considered by me to make money. I dont care about what others think, they are not saints as well. Is my life , my body so if this Rubhama come here trying to control our lives and tell us how we should live i tell them to mind their bussines and go and help the real victims girls who was forced not give me morality lessons how should i feel about my job. The real organisation who protect escorts and always will be there for us is Sex Workers Alliance or SWAI . Ruhama is a group of nuns who tell only lies about us.

[Meursault]

I think escorts on this very website have to challenge the narrative that ruhama is spewing out.

Every six months there is an article on journal.ie by ruhama telling the public how bad prostitution is. Where are the articles from escorts on this website offering a differing opinion.

I remember the debate on the claire byrne show about prostiution. There was basically one escort (Kate mcgrew) against about ten women that wanted prostitution to be banned. Kate could have done with a little support.

Escorts have to grab the bull by the horns. Go on the tv or radio or social media and the public how ruhama is wrong.

[AZ99]

You first.

The problem with clients speaking up against organisations like Ruhama is that anything they say gets dismissed immediately because they are the client. It's really escorts that have to be heard, not the clients.

[MassiveFerguson]

The problem with clients speaking up against organisations like Ruhama is that anything they say gets dismissed immediately because they are the client. It's really escorts that have to be heard, not the clients.

The problem is when I as a farmer speak up I am sidelined compared to the cute city slickers of Traylee and Ballybuffy.