Luxembourg passes landmark prostitution bill criminalising clients

[johnwin530]

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/lux...ising-clients/

[David Feckem]

Just from reading that article linked, it seems like a far more sensible version of the law than the one that exists here imo.

"With a thin majority (32-to-28), Luxembourg moved on Wednesday to adopt a bill that criminalises the solicitation of prostitution services from prostitutes that are minors or “vulnerable individuals.”

In addition, the police is given the mandate to raid hotels, boarding houses, bars, dance clubs, and any venue they may suspect pimping or prostitution takes place.

Treating the prostitute as a victim, the landmark bill provides a wide scope of “vulnerability.” That includes mental illness or an illegal migrant status. If arrested, a client faces 1-to-5 years in prison in the case of a minor. In all other cases, the client faces eight days to six months in prison and a €251-to-€50,000 fine.

The law provides clients with a chance to evade jail if they testify against the trafficker."

I suppose it will depend on how loosely "vulnerability" will be judged, but I can't disagree with any of it other than 1 to 5 years is too lenient a sentence from soliciting prostitution from a minor imo.

[Petros]

If arrested, a client faces 1-to-5 years in prison in the case of a minor. In all other cases, the client faces eight days to six months in prison and a €251-to-€50,000 fine.

I don't like the sounds of that!

[mearse]

I knew this would happen as we have the larger countries like my own who have passed the Bill already putting pressure on its neighbouring countries to follow their example.
It so sad that we live in a world like this where you life is not really your own anymore

[mearse]

Just from reading that article linked, it seems like a far more sensible version of the law than the one that exists here imo.

"With a thin majority (32-to-28), Luxembourg moved on Wednesday to adopt a bill that criminalises the solicitation of prostitution services from prostitutes that are minors or “vulnerable individuals.”

In addition, the police is given the mandate to raid hotels, boarding houses, bars, dance clubs, and any venue they may suspect pimping or prostitution takes place.

Treating the prostitute as a victim, the landmark bill provides a wide scope of “vulnerability.” That includes mental illness or an illegal migrant status. If arrested, a client faces 1-to-5 years in prison in the case of a minor. In all other cases, the client faces eight days to six months in prison and a €251-to-€50,000 fine.

The law provides clients with a chance to evade jail if they testify against the trafficker."

I suppose it will depend on how loosely "vulnerability" will be judged, but I can't disagree with any of it other than 1 to 5 years is too lenient a sentence from soliciting prostitution from a minor imo.

David i've seen 26 years that look like 16 years, its so hard to tell, you could have a girl 16 but looking 26 too and do you ask them all for ID now.
As long as two consenting adults there should be no problem but these governments who dont understand it and who really just dont care

[David Feckem]

David i've seen 26 years that look like 16 years, its so hard to tell, you could have a girl 16 but looking 26 too and do you ask them all for ID now.
As long as two consenting adults there should be no problem but these governments who dont understand it and who really just dont care

You know what, I think if in doubt you do ask the lady for some form of proof of age. You're about to ask her for sex or oral sex or to pretend to be your girlfriend, whatever, so I don't think you should be embarassed to tell her she looks really young. If she's unable or unwilling to reassure you, you compensate her and walk away.

I do think the way Luxembourg phrased their law seems like it is a genuine attempt to prevent human slavery and trafficking.
Whereas here you get the impression that the law was passed because certain moral crusaders just didn't like the thought of sex for money.

[mearse]

You know what, I think if in doubt you do ask the lady for some form of proof of age. You're about to ask her for sex or oral sex or to pretend to be your girlfriend, whatever, so I don't think you should be embarassed to tell her she looks really young. If she's unable or unwilling to reassure you, you compensate her and walk away.

I do think the way Luxembourg phrased their law seems like it is a genuine attempt to prevent human slavery and trafficking.
Whereas here you get the impression that the law was passed because certain moral crusaders just didn't like the thought of sex for money.

thankfully I perfer MILF's and GILF's but in France it hell to leather with their plans on stamping out clients visiting and they are putting some pressure on their neighbours to do something too,

looks like i'll have to buy loads more vouchers then

[johnwin530]

http://delano.lu/d/detail/news/prost...adopted/169027 ,This is another article I have read about the Nordic model law in Luxembourg and even though I disagree with the Nordic model, I agree with a previous commenter that at first glance it seems to be a better version of the law than exists in Sweden or was introduced in Ireland ,But the words vulnerable individuals leave a grey area in which judgment will be made in the eye of the beholder, ie. In the minds and ideas of some faith-based groups, Or more radical forms of feminism etc, All sex work would fit into that category of the vulnerable individual . I am just wondering was the intention to pass an exact copy of the Nordic model but they realized that it may not be voted in so they used some wordplay and slight alterations in order to get it passed? I am not sure, to be honest, I am hearing there is a push for the Nordic model of sex work also in Spain also from certain groups.

[gillyland]

it was in the pipeline so no big surprise here