Luas

[TonyB]

I,m self employed and struggle with the money I make and a lot of self employed do as well
I find it hard for them to justify the increases they are looking for

Me too, and if they get a 50% increase I'm closing my business and applying for a job driving a Luas.
Looks pretty attractive to me.

[TonyB]

Fair enough and I would like to see self employed also make a good living , but seeing luas workers get a pay rise will not make one bit of difference to you other than make you envious, also if workers have better wages it would give them more money to spend on house Improvements etc and that would be more work for you guys. I see members of my own family who work for big multi nationals bring home around 350 euro a week after tax while these guys make Billions . I also have family self employed and even though last year was good the previous 4 years were tough but you must admit ye made a killing during the Boom.

I see your point, but I don't think it works like that. If everyone gets a pay increase, everything will just go up in price.
Double the wages, double the costs, double the price and we are back to square one.

The reality is the rich will continue to be rich, and as far as I can see the gap between those who have, and those who don't have is widening every year.

I'm not opposed to anyone getting paid a fair wage, I just think the Luas workers already get a very fair wage.
I happen to think there are a lot more deserving of a pay increase than them

[willie wacker]

Me too, and if they get a 50% increase I'm closing my business and applying for a job driving a Luas.
Looks pretty attractive to me.

Yep wish I never became self employed
If I had my way again I would become a civil servant
And any young person reading this that,s the way to go.

[blue rebel]

Me too, and if they get a 50% increase I'm closing my business and applying for a job driving a Luas.
Looks pretty attractive to me.

I bet a lot of Luas Drivers cant afford to visit the amount of Escorts that you do so maybe being self employed isn't too bad. I was reading an article that an average Luas workers TAKE home pay was between 560 and 670 per week , now that is for working unsociable hours like weekends and nights and if you have a 1500 per month mortgage and cost of living in the capital City being more than the rest of the country I don't think that those wages are excessive. Also unlike the self employed all their wages are taxed as their is no cash jobs with no tax for the public or private worker
or tax back on their Diesel for their private cars .

[TonyB]

I bet a lot of Luas Drivers cant afford to visit the amount of Escorts that you do so maybe being self employed isn't too bad. I was reading an article that an average Luas workers TAKE home pay was between 560 and 670 per week , now that is for working unsociable hours like weekends and nights and if you have a 1500 per month mortgage and cost of living in the capital City being more than the rest of the country I don't think that those wages are excessive. Also unlike the self employed all their wages are taxed as their is no cash jobs with no tax for the public or private worker
or tax back on their Diesel for their private cars .

Maybe if a Luas driver spends 8 years in college he can afford escorts too

[blue rebel]

Maybe if a Luas driver spends 8 years in college he can afford escorts too

maybe the luas drivers taxes paid for your 8 years in college. A surgeon wouldn't spend 8 years in college .

[Barney Rubble]

I bet a lot of Luas Drivers cant afford to visit the amount of Escorts that you do so maybe being self employed isn't too bad. I was reading an article that an average Luas workers TAKE home pay was between 560 and 670 per week , now that is for working unsociable hours like weekends and nights and if you have a 1500 per month mortgage and cost of living in the capital City being more than the rest of the country I don't think that those wages are excessive. Also unlike the self employed all their wages are taxed as their is no cash jobs with no tax for the public or private worker
or tax back on their Diesel for their private cars .

Blue I wish to Fuck I was getting anywhere near that €560 @ 1.40 would mean £400 in the North - I don't even make £300.
Ye's are fuckin spoilt down there !!!

[blue rebel]

Blue I wish to Fuck I was getting anywhere near that €560 @ 1.40 would mean £400 in the North - I don't even make £300.
Ye's are fuckin spoilt down there !!!

Is that why all our young guys are emigrating ? The cost of living is seriously bad down south compared to the north all hidden taxes, Anyway ye are missing the point I am trying to make which is just that a luas driver getting a pay rise wont affect me or you so fair play to them for trying. No matter what job you do you should have a wage that allows you to live life without having to be worried about bills all the time.

[TonyB]

I don't see why in this day and age they couldn't just replace all the tram drivers with computer controlled trams.
I imagine it won't be long before they are all out of work and replaced with automated systems anyway.

[blue rebel]

I don't see why in this day and age they couldn't just replace all the tram drivers with computer controlled trams.
I imagine it won't be long before they are all out of work and replaced with automated systems anyway.

Ya and replace people with Robots and we all just sit at home and talk on EI happy days