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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    This has been a pathetic campaign from both sides. The yes side pushing some very woolly arguments the no side rebutting with some red herrings.
    The very title 'marriage equality referendum' set the tone, a crime against the English language.

    The fact of the matter is that over a time the importance of marriage has diminished. It will come to a point that co-habiting couples will have the same rights under the law as married people once they have children or have lived together for a set period of time.

    I'm voting no as I haven't been convinced of the merits of changing the status quo
    I truly hope you don't have a gay relative ( who's lesbian or gay) or someone close, that in the future will make you fell guilty for such selfish attitude. But again what to expect from the old generation ? Born on the last century with small mind? Not much ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Fernanda View Post
    I truly hope you don't have a gay relative ( who's lesbian or gay) or someone close, that in the future will make you fell guilty for such selfish attitude. But again what to expect from the old generation ? Born on the last century with small mind? Not much ...
    Do you think that rather lame guilt trip and half witted insult will influence my vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    Do you think that rather lame guilt trip and half witted insult will influence my vote?
    I've no intention at all of influencing your vote, I've better things to be worried about.
    Take care and pray to never have a gay daughter /son. or grandson . byeeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by dob View Post
    Do you think that rather lame guilt trip and half witted insult will influence my vote?
    No ,but one would hope the obvious attempts to continue social engineering based on archaic mythology by the No side would. (Yeah it should just be The Marriage referendum but the point is to show the current inequality that exists?)
    Or how about the fact that in a society more accepting ,not in word but deed ,of those of different sexual orientations we maybe on the first track to accepting heterosexual women can do what they like with their bodies?
    That the mindgroup that's encouring us to vote No wants their beliefs held up before those of others?
    That the blood of countless women- Galway women- and Children is on their hands?

    You honestly think that under laws guided by their hand and such people as their supporters we'll reach a stage where co-habiting couples are given the same rights as married people. You see no flaw in this way of thinking? Are you sure?

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    marriage was supposed to be between a man and a woman end of, so what is so wrong with civil partnership? this is supposed to be a catholic country, the church wont recognize same sex marriage?,but either way this pans out,its not going to affect my personel views on the matter,its only going to create more questions than answers like every debate in this country.so the quicker this gets sorted out the better and get down to real matters such as unemployment ,the health service ,water charges etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnb59 View Post
    marriage was supposed to be between a man and a woman end of, so what is so wrong with civil partnership? this is supposed to be a catholic country, the church wont recognize same sex marriage?,but either way this pans out,its not going to affect my personel views on the matter,its only going to create more questions than answers like every debate in this country.so the quicker this gets sorted out the better and get down to real matters such as unemployment ,the health service ,water charges etc
    The problem is the law got involved and religion and law get mixed up. A religious event got conditions and privileges given it by law, which serves to protect the couple that get married and give them certain responsibilities and rights within that union.

    Also, the church has members from all genders and sexual persuasions and yet they only acknowledge the heterosexual ones with regards to marital union? It's rather hypocritical, especially when so many priests have been found to be bi sexual or gay and abusing young children. I wonder if they would have done that if they had not been allowed to find a partner and have a relationship outside of their work?

    The only thing that should matter in the eyes of religion and the law is do the couple love each other? Do they want to be together and build a life together? If so, then let them seal that union in which ever way they see fit. If they consider themselves to be religious and attend a church, then why shouldn't they get married?

    If people are not included in community, then no one has a right to tell them how to behave or what they should do with their lives and it's not fair to let them in so far, but not let them completely through the door.

    I wouldn't get married again, it was more like a prison sentence for me, but hey it's not like that for everyone and they should have a choice, as long as they are committed and believe in the religion they want to get married through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnb59 View Post
    marriage was supposed to be between a man and a woman end of, so what is so wrong with civil partnership? this is supposed to be a catholic country, the church wont recognize same sex marriage?,but either way this pans out,its not going to affect my personel views on the matter,its only going to create more questions than answers like every debate in this country.so the quicker this gets sorted out the better and get down to real matters such as unemployment ,the health service ,water charges etc
    Marriage is an institution created by mankind, so what is the problem with changing it to make it more inclusive to all of society. And you ask what is wrong with a civil partnership, as others have stated, there are roughly 150 differences when it comes to legal issues such as inheritence, child guardianship etc.
    I am glad that you think equality in the state is not an important issue.
    Lastly you say Ireland is supposed to be a catholic country, how fucking dare you. Are you forgetting all other religions, especially those protestants who lead the fight for Irish independence, without whom this country would still be an outpost of the british empire.

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    When you have to start swearing about someone's views whether they be right or wrong it just shows how small minded you are.take a chill pill

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnb59 View Post
    When you have to start swearing about someone's views whether they be right or wrong it just shows how small minded you are.take a chill pill
    If that cleverly worded riposte is about my post, then I wonder who really is narrow minded when you do not address one point in the post, but rather try to dismiss it because of one word .Narrow minded would be, calling Ireland a catholic country, dismissing all the work put into make this country what it is by those not of the catholic religion, or of no religion at all. Narrow minded would be ,not allowing all people of this country the same rights as each other, not special rights, or more rights, just the same rights.

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    I agree with their argument but not their methods; arrogant, in-your-face, bullying psudo-intellectuals. Really disappointed in them.

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