Who do the YES campaigners think they are?

[xcitedcork]

It took 3 years after WW2 for the Marshall Plan to rebuild Germany to be put into action. So Ireland should have been patient and would have had a Home Rule parliament by 1920 or 1921 I reckon. But without the negative influence and power of the Catholic Church. Now what kind of an Ireland would we have had...

We should have had home rule in 1893 when it was passed by parliament but blocked by the house of lords. Having it in 1920 or so is surely mute as we did get it technically in 1920 but it was replaced with dominion status.
The only difference with regard the catholic church surely would be if we had never gotton independance and stayed under UK rule with the queen head of our national church.
Sounds like a new thread to start down that conversation!

[xcitedcork]

One British army commander in the Curragh did not constitute overall British policy on the issue of dealing with a potential Unionist insurrection against Irish Home Rule.
What the Irish, to their detriment, can never get their head around is the extreme constitutional crisis that would have arisen out of the failure to put Home Rule into effect in all 32 Irish counties had they only been given the chance in 1920-21.
The British army, in choosing to disobey the orders of Westminster, would have set Britain on an entirely different path that few in Britain would have have countenanced or permitted. This would essentially have effected a military coup d'état and over throw of the monarchy as the Crown-in-Parliament. As the oldest democracy, the mother parliament and the home of the Magna Carta, I just cannot see that ever having happened.
Therefore Ireland subjected itself by choice, may be through impatience, to 50 years of effective rule by the Catholic Church. And you don't need me to rehearse the glorious list of achievements achieved in that time by that institution.

Your arguments appear confused, perhaps im not reading correctly.
The irish were not the ones imposing home rule, london was through the 1914 act.
Asquith, a supporter of home rule intoduced the bill and immediately ulster opposes it.Carson raises an army of 100,000 volunteers and warns asquith of the consequences of introducing the home rule bill. His solution is partition which we still have today, allowing the north to be excluded which carson accepted.
The curragh mutiny of which i assume you are reffering too again was where ulster members of the british army refused to take up arms against the ulster volunteers if things turned nasty, all of these issues were outside of irish control persay, we didnt have an opportunity presented to us to put home rule in place for either 26 nor 32 counties.

Now where were gay rights in 1916 perhaps we should discuss who in the GPO was wearing brighter colours than others considering the thread

[Naughtynatalie]

In reply to the original title question ....


They think they are the Mutts Nutts, thats who .......